Re: [CR] Squeaky tubular- Panaracer Base Tape

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:05:59 -0700
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <kamenjas@gmail.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <Verktyg@aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <bf3.5370397a.371ad329@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Squeaky tubular- Panaracer Base Tape


Tufo distributors have told me that Tufo tape works best on 100% cotton base tapes. IIRC, Panaracer tubulars had a lot of nylon or other stnthetic content in the casing, and maybe the base tape as well. So maybe the Tufo tape isn't adhering perfectly to the base tape. I was a little skeptical that the base tape material actually made that much difference, but maybe there is something to that.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sat, 4/18/09, Verktyg@aol.com wrote:


> From: Verktyg@aol.com <Verktyg@aol.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Squeaky tubular- Panaracer Base Tape

\r?\n> To: kamenjas@gmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 1:54 AM

\r?\n> Ben,

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\r?\n> They were mounted with Tufo Extreme rim tape on new clean

\r?\n> rims. At first I

\r?\n> thought that there may have been a chemical reaction

\r?\n> between the adhesive in

\r?\n> the Tufo tape and the Panaracer tires. I asked the person

\r?\n> at Tufo customer

\r?\n> service and they said that they never had a problem with

\r?\n> rim tape affecting

\r?\n> the base tape.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> On both tires it's a clear case of adhesive failure

\r?\n> between the base tape

\r?\n> and the tire. I have some Italian made tires from the 70s

\r?\n> and 80s and you

\r?\n> still need to use an Exacto knife (scalpel) to separate the

\r?\n> base tape from the

\r?\n> tire casing.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I have 20 some old sewups that came on bikes or wheels that

\r?\n> I've acquired

\r?\n> over the past few years. These tires are 5-15 years old and

\r?\n> every one of them

\r?\n> has base tape separation. They range from cheapos to fairly

\r?\n> decent sewups.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I picked 6 of the best ones and sent them to Tire Alert in

\r?\n> Florida to have

\r?\n> the base tape replaced.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://www.tirealert.com/

\r?\n>

\r?\n> They charged me $8.00 USD each for the new tape including

\r?\n> return shipping.

\r?\n> I got them back yesterday and they look very good.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Chas. Colerich

\r?\n> Oakland, CA

\r?\n>

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