Re: [CR] Campy Rally Variations?? - Where did they get the cage plates?

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Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:51:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Campy Rally Variations?? - Where did they get the cage plates?

Spence''s first alpine conversions were well before the introduction of the Rally and probably even the Gran Turismo. The cage plates on the Wolf alpine conversion look pretty crude aesthetically and probably could've been produced by almost anyone with basic machine tools.

Here's an early Wolf alpine modded Record:

Kurt Sperry Bellingham, Washington USA

2009/5/4 Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>:
> Well this is my final permitted post for the day, but this discussion brings up a question I don't think I've heard addressed in any of the past threads.
> Did Spense Wolfe and others begin their homebrew long cage conversions of Nuovo Records before Campy ever introduced the factory-produced Rally, as I've always assumed?  If so, where the heck did they get the cage plates?  I mean, the previous Campy long cage RD was the Gran Tourismo, which appeared at least on the Schwinn touring Paramount up through about 1971 or 1972.  But the jockey cage plates on the Gran Tourismo bore absolutely no resemblence (thank God) to the later homebrewed or factory produced Rallys. So where did Spence et al get the long cage plates to convert the NR's?  And if the factory-produced Rally was already available at the time, then why did these guys go to the trouble of converting NR's?