Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)


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Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:28:43 +0100
From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)


If anybody in the UK needs non standard BBs retapped I have taps for French, Italian, Raleigh and Chater-Lea as well as standard British - I go to most of the cyclejumbles so can meet up with anybody at these events to retap a BB shell. Many frame refinishers at least in the UK have Italian taps as these are almost always needed after a frame repaint...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles

PS But please note I do not lend the taps out...

brianbaylis@juno.com wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Upon rare ocassions I do build a frame that has Italian BB threads; so does Peter Johnson. I still have a fondness for the Cinelli style sand cast BB shell. I use them on special projects; for example I used one on the track frame with the one piece headtube that is shown on the CR site in the Baylis catagory. It has been heavily modified; but that's one of the things those shells are very good for. I still have quite a few of them but save them for certain situations.
>
> I will be bringing that purple track frame to the Cirque for display; and it has just come up for sale. It's 53cm c-t.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> USA
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Bob Freitas <freitas1@pacbell.net>
> To: James Swan <jswan@optonline.net>
> Cc: oroboyz@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)
> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:09:57 -0700
>
> Could we hazard to guess more Italian and French taps now belong
> to non Bike shops? I have oberved many of the Campy kits on Ebay are
> Italian/French .
> Jamie any KOF guys using French or Italian?
> Heres another Tack, Go to your local Car dealer and see if they
> have any specialty tools for a 15-20 year old car
>
>
> BOB FREITAS
> MILL VALLEY, CA USA
>
> James Swan wrote:
>> Are you asking for a show of hands? ; )
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>> Jamie
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>> James B. Swan
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>> Northport, NY, USA
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>> http://www.jamieswan.net
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>> http://www.limws.org
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>> http://www.liatca.org
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>> On May 22, 2009, at 7:48 PM, oroboyz@aol.com <mailto:oroboyz@aol.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> << Today in Marin (a Probike hotbed) maybe only 1 shop could
>>> rethread an Italian BB, he could do it in 30 minutes or so but it
>>> would take him 2 weeks to find where he put the tools >>
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>>> It's a shame they don't have good shops out there in California like
>>> we have in North Carolina Ha ha!
>>> (Acxtually I wonder how many here have Italian taps, etc. Not many I
>>> bet...)
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>>> Dale
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>>> Dale Brown
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>>> cycles de ORO, Inc.
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>>> 1410 Mill Street
>>>
>>> Greensboro, NC USA
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Freitas <freitas1@pacbell.net <mailto:freitas1@pacbell.net>>
>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> <mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>>
>>> Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 7:15 pm
>>> Subject: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well
>>> make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)
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>>> I am thinking all that Italian and French frame
>>> tooling was sold off as bikes went to a world wide standard. Many of us
>>> have bought up some of that stuff and are now the beneficiaries.
>>>
>>> Even in the day most shops lacked the BB taps
>>> ,reamers and head tube tools. The average shop would try to straighten
>>> your fork and failing that usually used a replacement fork with was
>>> threaded for a wide range of sizes. Then the operation was simply cut to
>>> size.
>>>
>>> Today in Marin (a Probike hotbed) maybe only 1 shop
>>> could rethread an Italian BB, he could do20it in 30 minutes or so but it
>>> would take him 2 weeks to find where he put the tools
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>>> BOB FREITAS
>>>
>>> waiting until Tuesday for my fame to spread in MILL VALLEY ,CA USA