Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:02:36 -0500
From: <globallyoff@s2ki.com>
To: Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
Cc: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF


I was fortunate enough to buy a 1975 Grandis Special Prix frameset when I workded at "The Spoke" in Austin, Texas new. IIRC it came from NYC. Without a doubt, it is my favorite bike and a prized possession. It is the best riding road bike I have, and I wouldn't trade it for a Colnago, Masi, or Cinelli.

Mine is the red one on the CR website.

Keith Kessel Shreveport, La.

On Mon, June 8, 2009 6:22 am, Ken Freeman wrote:
> Check the CR site, there's a page on Grandis.
>
>
> Ken Freeman
> Ann Arbor, MI USA
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> That CL bike is very nice, MINIMAX is fairly rare.
>>
>>
>> I would say that any Columbus MAX-type bike would rank high in the
>> model range. Grandis is one of those smaller builders of the Veneto
>> (Verona to be
>> more exact). They are highly regarded by riders of that region and
>> Grandis
>> is always quite busy, busy enough not be interested in exporting.
>>
>> To Greg: I lived in Verona and visited them many times. They have a
>> very, very big store and facility, see:
>> http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2007/08/visit-to-grandis.html
>>
>>
>> Here is a story about a 1980 SL:
>> http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2007/12/1980-grandis.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Angel Garcia
>> Long Valley, NJ; ex-Verona
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM, <gear@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thanks Nels. I was meaning to be more specific to the example of
>>> Grandis
>>> shown in the listing from Charles. I should have been more clear that
>>> the one in my future was also SL, very similar detail etc (different
>>> paint)
>> to
>>> the one in the ad. I was wondering if that level is considered to be
>>> a
>> well
>>> crafted, well designed and well respected bike relative to the
>>> general
>> ilk
>>> of Italian bikes talked about here. I should have elaborated that
>>> more clearly. Certainly, larger builders make/made a wide range of
>>> product, Bianchi, Olmo, Legnano etc, but for the most part we discuss
>>> the higher
>> end
>>> of their lines here. I was just looking for opinions from other
>>> owners or previous owners etc. Didn't mean to paint with such a wide
>>> brush.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Overton
>>> Denver, Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Emilio Bozzi <emiliobozzi@hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Greg-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RE:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone here care to elaborate on where Grandis rates<<
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thats such a subjective question (in this case, the Grandis model
>>>> is OBVIOUSLY a MAJOR STEED).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, like all manufacturers, you need to look at the individual
>>>> models and stop making sweeping judgement....OK, Huffy bikes
>>>> excluded....but lets say Cinelli. If one was to "elaboarte where
>> Cinelli
>>
>>>> rate" in regards to their MTN (off topic) bike, one easily
>>>> elaborate
>> that
>>>> they are a big time peice of stinking CRAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By that same token Grandis may make a low end peice of poo, and it
>>>>
>> would
>>>> be a shame to conclude that all Grandis were of the same quality
>>>> just
>> be
>>>> seeing a lower line...assuming they made one.
>>>>
>>>> ciao Nels Cone
>>>> Seattle WA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:20:39 -0600
>>>>
>>>>> From: gear@xmission.com
>>>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am picking up a similar bike tomorrow. It's a beautiful frame,
>>>>> but I have to say that I don't know much about Grandis. Anyone
>>>>> here care to elaborate on where Grandis rates, say an On Topic or
>>>>> maybe slightly off but definitely KOF?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Greg Overton
>>>>> now officially at my posting limit for today Denver, Colo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Charles Nighbor <cnighbor1@comcast.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A very nice GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike for sale
>>>>>> SF
>>>>>>
>>>>> Craigslist
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not Seller
>>>>>> Charles Nighbor Walnut Creek, CA
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/1208263962.html
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>> You may enjoy reading my blog:
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