Re: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:49:02 +0000
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To: Peter Brueggeman <>
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Subject: Re: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

Hi Peter: People will try to sell what will sell well-big names register with large numbers of bidders, and frequently get high prices. Very rare items don't register at all. The unscrupulous will try to fake what they can. In vintage bike collecting this practice is not limited to just pantographing parts, but faking entire bikes and now even inventing provenance.
George Hollenberg MD

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Brueggeman <>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:34 pm
Subject: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

> Regarding Marc Winkelman's commento on the panto Colnago

\r?\n> seatpost and other

\r?\n> parts " many/most panto items on eBay, this one appears

\r?\n> fake too.

\r?\n> Take a quick look at his other auctions and it's clear someone

\r?\n> has gone

\r?\n> crazy with an engraving machine,.... masquerading as vintage

\r?\n> panto. .... "


\r?\n> this eBay outpouring of contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

\r?\n> appears limited

\r?\n> to readily salable marques like Colnago, Derosa, Pinarello,

\r?\n> Bianchi, etc.

\r?\n> Panto items for less salable marques like Somec and Grandis

\r?\n> continue to

\r?\n> appear authentic and are infrequent on eBay.


\r?\n> Peter



\r?\n> Peter Brueggeman

\r?\n> La Jolla California USA

\r?\n> 4peebee(at)