Re: [CR] Parts appeal: late 70's vintage 3T 46cm handlebars and corresponding 3T 140mm stem, late 70's Nuovo Record Rear Derallieur

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From: "R.S. Broderick" <rsb000@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:27:27 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR] Parts appeal: late 70's vintage 3T 46cm handlebars and corresponding 3T 140mm stem, late 70's Nuovo Record Rear Derallieur


While Hilary is to a great extent "correct" in his assertion that handlebars wider than 42 cm were generally not available until the later 1980's or 1990's (...well beyond the CR List cutoff date), for the sake of technical accuracy I would like to point out that 3ttt did indeed offer 44 cm versions of their Record Grand Prix, Record Competizione, and Record Competizione Superleggero ... AND ... that this can easily be confirmed by a quick review of their literature published from 1974 through 1986:

http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=39

... HOWEVER ...

This can be more than a bit misleading to the extent that 3ttt measures its wares O-t-O and NOT C-t-C as most other handlebar manufacturers were wont to do. So, the bottom line is that while 44 cm 3ttt handlebars from the 1970's do exist, they are effectively the same size as for example 42 cm Cinelli bars dating from that same period which are measured arguably more conventionally using a C-t-C standard.

Robert "this is a land of confusion" Broderick ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota Sioux Falls, USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Hilary Stone Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:13 AM To: Marc Winnikoff Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Parts appeal: late 70's vintage 3T 46cm handlebars and corresponding 3T 140mm stem, late 70's Nuovo Record Rear Derallieur

There has been several appeals for wide bars from the 1970s recently - they simply were not manufactured. Bars as wide as 44cm and 46cm did not exist until the late 1980s/1990s.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles

Marc Winnikoff wrote:
> Listers,
> Please let me know if any of you have the above.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marc Winnikoff
> Santa Barbara, CA