OK another question to ponder. Two set of Reynolds 531 tubes.?Two set of Nervez lugs BOTH SETS ABSOLUTELY THE SAME. Two DIFFERENT Experienced! builders. Both build frames with said materials,?? ?Build both frame up with the same? components??? WHICH BLOODY BIKE, RIDES THE BEST??? SO Brian, Peter, Dale.Etc. WHAT does make a frame you build BETTER than the other guys? The finish? this does NOT?make the bike perform any better!? What magic tips do you have up YOUR sleeves to make us buy YOUR product?? Cheers?John Crump oldfullofquestionsinmyOLDageBrit. Parker, Co?