THE RED ONE WILL GO FASTER!? The BEST reply,That?I think I got.?Thanks for all the comments regarding my questions. Is this NOT what the C/R format is for?. Open the mind, think why are we so involved in our hobby,? NOW to another question. SO frame builders past and present have always been faced with HOW to increase sales.MAKE MONEY etc. How many "GIMMICKS",did frame builders and dealers use to produce a product that would sell and catch the buyers eye. Some that worked, Curly stays, Cigar tubes, flying?gates spilt tubes, etc.Some for looks only, FANCY Lugs, paint,?lining.etc ?Some did not work? Paris Galiber maybe.?Mostly by Brit builders, how about the rest of the world, Lets see what the members know and remember. How many OWN one.Did they get it for the so called"Gimmicks"?did they hope to cash in on it?at some point, OR as a true collector hold on to it for future generations of collectors. Cheers John Crump Old&holdingonBrit, Parker, Co USA??