Re: [CR] Motobecane Grand Record frameset: $1, 425 now other $1425 options

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:24:15 -0400
From: <jgallen@lexairinc.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Motobecane Grand Record frameset: $1, 425 now other $1425 options


Speaking of Bruce Gordons, Is this the one to which you refer: Ebay item #: 250476720258? It looks to be a nice early example of one of the best framebuilders around. And if you had bought the F&F for 1425 bucks, the seller was throwing in what looks to be a first gen Super Record group and Cinelli cockpit for $75. What a steal!

And then there's this Holdsworth: Ebay item # 320407175918

200 bucks, zero bids, 2-1/2 days to go. The quick release mechanism brazed to the seat binder eye is interesting and unusual, is it not? And how many early 70's bikes had braze-ons on the down tube for bar-cons? This is an early 70's bike, isn't it?

Of course that Twin-plate is still at $899 with zero bids and 36 hours to go. And now there's a mid 80's Sachs stuck at $1000. The Gordon was a little smaller than the Moto but the Holdworth, Masi and Sachs are all about the same size.

George Allen Lexington, KY USA

On Tue, August 4, 2009 10:43 pm, globallyoff@s2ki.com wrote:
> Clearly there are still killer deals to be had for the astute/lucky
> collector. The 56cm. Bruce Gordon that sold within the last week comes to
> mind. The Dave Moulton at around the same price ($800) is another. I
> purchased a nice Holdsworth touring bike on flea bay for around $400. The
> seller said it could use a paint job. When I got the bike it was just
> grimy and need some paint correction. I also picked up a Moto Le Champion
> in original condition for $400 but then spent around $200 more for Univ.
> NOS levers and hoods.
>
> I'll admit I'm a bottom feeder here, and the only frame builders I will be
> spending large coin on are the American builders. I am convinced that
> they are the best in the world and at the top of their craft. Hopefully my
> custom frameset is on schedule to be built in the future.
>
> Keith Kessel
> Shreveport, La.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, August 3, 2009 5:47 am, jgallen@lexairinc.com wrote:
>> So for about half the price of the $1425 Moto frame and fork someone got
>> this:
>>
>>
>> Ebay Item #: 140335233368
>> URL:
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> =STRK:MEWAX:IT
>>
>>
>> A Dave Moulton with a nearly full Super Record group. I still don't get
>> it but all my friend say I'm too literal and argumentative.
>>
>>
>> George Allen
>> still baffled in Lexington, KY
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, August 2, 2009 2:34 am, Stronglight49@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Recently ended eBay auction: item no. 310157738411
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, a bit rich for my blood. But, this appears uncommonly well
>>> finished for that period (or any). Having priced a restoration
>>> repaint
>>> on a different but similar frameset from the folks at Cyclart several
>>> years ago (complete with lug masking, outlining, re-chrome, etc.), I
>>> think this admittedly HIGH ebay winning bid is in fact really not so
>>> outrageous at all. And, remember, this particular frameset is in
>>> beautiful entirely ORIGINAL condition.
>>>
>>> With all the recent discussion of "re-paint or let it be..." I think
>>> this is a good example of the high value of original condition placed
>>> on a bike - at least by some folks. I have not priced such a
>>> restoration
>>> re-finish recently, but I suspect the total would be considerably less
>>> than the final auction amount. Especially, since this particular model
>>> had only the lower front fork blades chrome plated - not the headlugs
>>> nor
>>> any of the rear triangle.
>>>
>>> The rather heavy lug lining was really quite typical of the
>>> Motobecanes
>>> I've seen. However nice this bike (and it is definitely one of my
>>> very
>>> favorite models - and colors) it is nevertheless a factory production
>>> model. So, one would never expect a very finicky attention to detail
>>> when painting the lug shores which one of our fine custom builders or
>>> painters might lavish on a such bike in their care.
>>>
>>> If the buyer is a CR List member, I would certainly love to hear from
>>> him - either on or Off List.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BOB HANSON, ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, USA
>>>
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