Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?

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From: <"brianbaylis@juno.com">
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:36:42 +0000
To: <oroboyz@aol.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?


Dale,

No question in my mind it is NOT a Hetchins. I would also say that the builder had not much "skill" beyond the ordinary, at best. Pretty good chance the maker will never be known. But for certain it is not a Hetchins.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA USA I know what a Hetchin's looks like; and that ain't it.


---------- Original Message ----------
From: oroboyz@aol.com
To: rfcopple@cox.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:17:25 -0400


Well, in my opinion, that is not a Hetchins... So many things are dissimilar; I would say that is an energetic hobbyists effort. The radius of the curly stays are different, ditto for the fast back seat stay style.

Dale

Dale Brown

Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Robert F. Copple <rfcopple@cox.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:01 pm Subject: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?

This is my first post to this list. I am somewhat of a classic / vintage bike collector. Last week, I picked up a frame that has me perplexed. It clearly has Hetchins characteristics, including curvy stays and ornate lugs, however, I have not been able to identify it from the historic site.

For background, it came equipped with some Pat. 73 Campy Record and has Italian threading. Could this be an Italia?

Do you think this is a Hetchins or a one-off by a frame builder who obviously had some skill?

I appreciate your taking a look at the photos.

Best Regards,

Robert F. Copple Scottsdale, Arizona USA

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