I don't believe The Jubilee used the same mounting system as most other Huret RD's. The Duopar and most others used a tabbed washer between the RD body and the DO. There were three different tabbed washers for Huret, Campy and Simplex DO's each with the tab/tabs placed differently.
But Jubilee, I believe had different bodies for each DO type, with the tab for the stop actually incorporated into the body. Thus the "patte Italienne" model had a body designed to match up with the placement of the RD stop on a Campy DO. The other strange thing about the Jubilee, and maybe other Huret RD's, is it usually came with a nut that threaded onto the pivot bolt from inside the DO. This was somewhat like the nut used by Simplex RD's. But in the case of Simplex the nut was used because the RD was primarily designed for Simplex DO's, even though Simplex RD's work fine on Campy and Huret DO's as well. Simplex DO's were unthreaded, so the nut inside the DO was the only way to secure the pivot bolt to the DO. But I'm pretty sure I've seen Jubilees with the nut, even on threaded Huret and Campy DO's. Anyone know the purpose of this?
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA
> From: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>
\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] More Huret Jubilee Mysteries - Can Anyone Solve ?
\r?\n> To: "r cielec" <teaat4p@yahoo.com>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, verktyg@aol.com
\r?\n> Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 10:25 PM
\r?\n> Richard,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I think the terms long and short cage are confusing the
\r?\n> issue.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Huret made standard close ratio Jubilee rear derailleurs
\r?\n> with several different capacity pulley cages. I listed the
\r?\n> part numbers (Ref. numbers) for the 3 different models in a
\r?\n> previous message.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Ref 2200: 13-24T FW 36-53T CR
\r?\n> Ref 2252: 13-28T FW 36-53T CR
\r?\n> Ref 2240: 13-24T FW 36-53T CR "patte italienne"
\r?\n> for Campy dropouts
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Huret ALSO made a "long cage" Super Touring model Jubilee
\r?\n> derailleur with about a 5"(125mm) long pulley cage. Besides
\r?\n> being flimsy it didn't have any bigger rear sprocket
\r?\n> capacity than the standard Jubilee models.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Unlike the Japanese makes, most French long cage RDs were
\r?\n> designed to swallow up a lot of chain for a wide difference
\r?\n> in chainring sizes but not span a big difference in
\r?\n> freewheel sprockets.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Ref 2248: 13-24T FW 26-53T CR
\r?\n> Ref 2253: 13-28T FW 26-53T CR
\r?\n> Ref 2254: 13-24T FW 26-53T CR "patte italienne"
\r?\n> for Campy dropouts
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I don't know if the Ref numbers are on these derailleurs or
\r?\n> not. So it still comes down to trial and error.
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Remember, these were designed to work with Huret dropouts.
\r?\n> The distance from the center of the hub axle to the center
\r?\n> of the dropout mounting bolt varied as well as the location
\r?\n> on the gear hanger front to rear.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> There were no standards until Shimano forced the issue with
\r?\n> their SIS products.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> So mounting a Huret Jubilee on a Campy dropout is still
\r?\n> going to be a matter of trial and error.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Same thing with the mounting washer.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Chas. Colerich
\r?\n> Oakland, CA USA
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> r cielec wrote:
\r?\n> > Ahoy !
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > As mentioned by several listers, Huret offered Jubilee
\r?\n> rear ders - both short and long cage - in rear sprocket max.
\r?\n> capacities of 24t and 28t.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > In the several on-line, exploded parts catalogue views
\r?\n> I found, Huret does not cite different part numbers for
\r?\n> either the 24t and the 28t versions; that is: one parts list
\r?\n> for both capacity ders.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > So, does anyone know how to identify and distinguish
\r?\n> the 24t Jubilee from the 28t Jubilee? (That is besides trial
\r?\n> and error: If it rubs on the 28, it must be the 24).
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Thanks.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Richard Cielec
\r?\n> > Chicago, Illlinois; U.S.A.