Re: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:15:29 +0200
From: "Freek Faro" <khun.freek@gmail.com>
To: John Cerasulo <cerasulo@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding


Its another 'RIH' ....

This is the RIH from Vienna ('Wien'), Austria. Somehow they managed to get the same name as the Amsterdam RIH, which certainly has a very long history, so i dont know how that happened. The Austrian name RIH is an abbreviation of something (the owners name probably), the Amsterdam name RIH is from the famous arabian stallion from the Karl May adventure novels (Winnetou!!!).

Freek Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

2009/9/18 John Cerasulo <cerasulo@yahoo.com>
> Awesome video indeed. I've seen some really nice RIH track frames with
> beautiful lug work on them. I've been watching an on topic RIH lower end
> road frame on Ebay. The listing is here:
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> http://ebay.com/<blah>
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> I thought it would make a great city lock up bike for the streets of NYC.
> The seller wants too much for it in my humble opinion. I put in a generous
> offer of 180 and it was declined. I'm assuming it's Alle tubing. The BB
> cluster is rather uneventful and from what I can see the dropouts aren't
> stamped. It does have nice long filed lugs though. Anyone have any
> thoughts? Thanks for sharing the videos!
> Best,
> John Cerasulo
> Brooklyn, NY
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> --- On Fri, 9/18/09, oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
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> From: oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com>
> Subject: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding
> To: veronaman@gmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 9:34 AM
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> Very interesting! ?How nice that they made these two videos!
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> A few observations & questions...
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> At the start:?
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> - Heating fork blades rather high up... for what purpose? It almost looks
> like he is heating to re-set the curvature/offset, which should be a no no.
> But maybe that is not the case and instead he is brazing the dropouts and
> for some reason heating the blades higher up than seem necessary or
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> Note the use of old Haden or Bocama lugs and Cinelli Spoiler bb!?
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> Note the nice inserts to protect BB shell while clamping in vise...
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> Note the somewhat odd Ouji board for frame design set up. What could that
> large shaped partial disc affair be? To set seat tube angle? ?Why the dual
> top tube process? To match seat and and head angle by making these top tube
> elements?parallel??
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> Note nice big fat flame used...
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> Note that unusual fixture or gadget along the top of top tube when he is
> fitting it to bb shell...
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> All and all a fascinating look at a builder who had obviously devised his
> own solutions to the craft of traditional frame building!
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> Dale
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> Dale Brown
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> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com>
> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 7:49 am
> Subject: [CR] RIH Framebuilding
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> Well done videos of a KOF frame being built at RIH:
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> Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4mw_s162w
> Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0fQ9XwaKVQ
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> Would love to know what he occasionally says....
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> Angel Garcia
> Long Valley, NJ
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