Re: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:02:33 -0400
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Subject: Re: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding


Re:I've been watching an on topic RIH lower end road frame on Ebay.? The listing is here:

http://ebay.com/<blah>


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John: This is sort of funny.. Looking at the under the BB guides, notice that these little cable guide parts are made & designed with the idea that after brazing them on, the builder peens over the little tabs so that the cablea are contained within.... Apparently RIH forgot that step.

http://web.me.com/ugyved/GarageSaleImages/GarageSale_1253268161_16900.jpg

Dale

Dale Brown

Greenjsboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: John Cerasulo <cerasulo@yahoo.com> To: veronaman@gmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; oroboyz@aol.com Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding

Awesome video indeed.? I've seen some really nice RIH track frames with beautiful lug work on them.? I've been watching an on topic RIH lower end road frame on Ebay.? The listing is here: http://ebay.com/<blah>

I thought it would make a great city lock up bike for the streets of NYC.? The seller wants too much for it in my humble opinion. I put in a generous offer of 180 and it was declined.? I'm assuming it's Alle tubing.? The BB cluster is rather uneventful and from what I can see the dropouts aren't stamped.? It does have nice long filed lugs though.? Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks for sharing
the videos!
Best,
John Cerasulo
Brooklyn, NY


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From: oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> Subject: [CR] Videos of RIH Framebuilding To: veronaman@gmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 9:34 AM

Very interesting! ?How nice that they made these two videos!

A few observations & questions...

At the start:?

- Heating fork blades rather high up... for what purpose? It almost looks like he is heating to re-set the curvature/offset, which should be a no no. But maybe that is not the case and instead he is brazing the dropouts and for some reason heating the blades higher up than seem necessary or desirable...?

Note the use of old Haden or Bocama lugs and Cinelli Spoiler bb!?

Note the nice inserts to protect BB shell while clamping in vise...

Note the somewhat odd Ouji board for frame design set up. What could that large shaped partial disc affair be? To set seat tube angle? ?Why the dual top tube process? To match seat and and head angle by making these top tube elements?parallel??

Note nice big fat flame used...

Note that unusual fixture or gadget along the top of top tube when he is fitting it to bb shell...

All and all a fascinating look at a builder who had obviously devised his own solutions to the craft of traditional frame building!

Dale

Dale Brown

Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 7:49 am Subject: [CR] RIH Framebuilding

Well done videos of a KOF frame being built at RIH:

Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4mw_s162w Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0fQ9XwaKVQ

Would love to know what he occasionally says....

Angel Garcia Long Valley, NJ

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