Re: [CR]Alloy Crankarm bolts & Hi-E skewers

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:31:02 -0800
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Alloy Crankarm bolts & Hi-E skewers
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, accobra <accobra@peoplepc.com>
In-Reply-To: <9238783E5CDF446A9C0EAC0CC311A79C@MarkPC>


I have Hi-E skewers on a couple of Hi-E front wheels, but I'm a little suspicious of them on a rear wheel, not so much becasue of the weight, but because the odd little one-wing wing nut didn't seem to tighten them all that tight, so the chain might pull them loose on a rear wheel. On my Cuevas with newer style Hi-E hubs I used some modern antitheft skewers, Alexrodz, or something like that. They look somewhat similar to the old Hi-E, but hold the wheel, especially the rear, much more securely.

Some H-E designs were brillant, some just weird, but they were all interesting, although it might be fair to call the skewers dumb, at least for the rear wheel.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, accobra wrote:


> From: accobra <accobra@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [CR]Alloy Crankarm bolts & Hi-E skewers
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:41 AM
> The alloy bolts were "usually" strong enough to
> hold the crank in place, but
> not to tighten the crank - as the instructions said.
> Obviously some of us
> back then saw it as a sideline hobby/sport to see how many
> grams we could
> shave off our bikes. Drillium!
>
> I had a set of those gold alloy bolts on my Masi in the
> 70's. I used them
> per the instructions and they never broke. In fact I still
> have them in a
> drawer. I don't bother using them anymore because
> those few grams won't
> make much difference to my performance now 30+ years older.
> Maybe it didn't
> back then either - but it looked cool when I was 16.
>
> Hey, how about ultra light Hi-E skewers??? I still have
> one of those
> minimalist of skewers on the front wheel of that same Masi.
>
> Mark Winkelman
> Dallas, Texas USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos"
> <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; "Nor
> Meyer" <norbikes@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: "Arnold-like" Alloy Crankarm
> bolts
>
>
> > The instructions themsleves are stupid. If you're
> going to have to use
> > steel bolts every time you tighten the cranks, then
> the alloy bolts serve
> > no purpose. May as well just remove the bolts
> altogether after you've
> > tightened the cranks and save yet another few grams.
> Of course, maybe you
> > need to carry the steel bolts with you in case you
> have to retighten the
> > cranks, but then you haven't reduced the total
> weight of bike and rider
> > and gear. Like I said, alloy crank bolts were a
> really stupid idea.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Big Spring, Texas, USA
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Nor Meyer
> <norbikes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Nor Meyer <norbikes@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [CR]Re: "Arnold-like" Alloy
> Crankarm bolts
> >> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:23 AM
> >> A really stupid idea, IMHO. I mean one of the
> principal
> >> functions of a
> >> crank bolt is to tighten the cranks, and alloy
> bolts could
> >> not do so without
> >> a high risk of failure.
> >>
> >> Uh, if you'd bothered to read the instructions
> prior to
> >> installing, you'd
> >> have discovered that you first install the crank
> arms with
> >> *steel* bolts,
> >> then remove them and replace w the nifty aluminum
> ones...
> >> It's that "bling
> >> factor" ya kno, sorta like "Built for
> Speed"
> >> decals on some bikes. Very
> >> stylin'
> >>
> >> Nor Meyer, holed up in icey Mt. Vernon,
> IA
> >>
> >>
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