Re: [CR] Masi Silver Touch-Up Paint

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:10:28 -0700
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>, "brianbaylis@juno.com" <brianbaylis@juno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20091001.080120.26985.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>
Cc: jpweigle@sbcglobal.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Masi Silver Touch-Up Paint


Brian, I've been meaning to ask about the durability of touchup paint. I believe traditional enamel finishes were heated in an oven to harden them, while I believe Imron is a two-part formula that must be combined just before use. Given that, will automotive paint or any other Do-It-Yourself touchup option be hard enough to wear well? I've done touchup with model airplane enamel in the past, but found that the touchup would rub off when waxed high quality paste wax. That is why in recent years I've used nail polish almost exclusively for touchup, as it dry past and hard and won't rub off with hand waxing. I there ant other option for a durable touchup one can apply at home?

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Thu, 10/1/09, brianbaylis@juno.com wrote:


> From: brianbaylis@juno.com <brianbaylis@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Masi Silver Touch-Up Paint
> To: kenfreeman096@gmail.com
> Cc: jpweigle@sbcglobal.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:01 AM
>
> Ken,
>
> Not to speak for Peter or any other painters; but most of
> us have paint formulas that are very close to the original
> colors for early Masis and Cinellis, amongst others. They
> look reasonably correct in color and grain structure of the
> metallic flakes. But when used as a touch up for an original
> paint job, since the is a WIDE range of possible shades due
> to age or other factors that prevent it from being an
> undetectable match for the original paint. And if the touch
> up is done with a brush, there there's very little chance of
> making the chip or whatever disappear. The spot is obvious.
> If attempting to do an air brush touch-up the situation
> isn't a whole lot different; and then there's the blending
> of the areas to deal with. I say it's best to take part of
> the frame to an automotive paint store and try to get close
> that way. There are too many variations in color to go by a
> formula for a repaint when seeking a touch-up. Doing touch
> up of colors that are layered (flamboyant, pearl, or candy
> apple colors) complicate the process in a huge way.
>
> One of the difficulties in matching colors is that paints
> are made differently in Europe than in the States. Doing
> touch-ups that a professional with high standards is happy
> with is a real pain in the ass. Also very time consuming
> also. Best to do the touch up yourself in my opinion.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> I've washed my hands of touch-ups since there is only one
> of me, and it becomes a serious waste of time under those
> circumstances.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
> To: Peter Weigle <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "Classicrendezvous@Bikelist.Org"
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Masi Silver Touch-Up Paint
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:32:30 -0400
>
> Peter,
>
> Based on your success with the silver, I'd like to ask you
> a related
> question.  I have a 1980 Masi painted in the light
> blue metallic color.
> This color can be seen on the CR Masi USA page,
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Masi_usa_main.htm,
> on Scott Ramsay's
> bike.
>
> The question is, have you ever matched this color, and if
> so, what was the
> match?
>
>
>
>
> > Mark,
> > I don't bill myself as the end all restoration expert,
> but I've used the
> > Alpha color code AR727  for Cinelli's. I don't
> know if this is the same code
> > as Phil was refering to? This color would probably be
> pretty close to the
> > Masi...
> >
> > But when I do Masi silver I use a Fiat/Lancia color
> code 678, Dupont # is
> > 44517- (other paint brands will use their own #.)
> > The color match was pretty spot on to the Masi's I
> tested it on, and then
> > repainted.
> >
> > Other painter's may have their own special matching
> #s, maybe they'll chime
> > in.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > peter weigle
> > lyme, ct.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ken Freeman
> Ann Arbor, MI USA
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