Re: [CR] Cinelli rehab...

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:39:33 -0700
From: Pacific Coast Cycles <paccoastcycles@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <oroboyz@aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <8CC140C8DAFF5D7-4108-3AF2@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Cinelli rehab...


When i saw the subject matter "Cinelli Rehab" I thought it may be one of my customers who should be trying hard to come to terms with his "Cinelli habit".

Glad to see someone wants to fix up one.

Chuck Hoefer
Vista, California USA


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From: oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Cinelli rehab... To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 12:52 PM

Michael:

You wrote:

<<...drilled through the holes in the bottom bracket sleeve right through the seat & down tubes. >>

I don't understand this..? Sounds bad but I don't seec the evidence of anything that bad in the pics.

The big cut out BB shell is the worst damage... But that may be OK and maybe better to just ignore it & leave it as-is.

I would replace the chain stay bridge, fill in those holes under the chain stays (brass or silver) clean it up, paint it silver and add correct decals...  Might even find a replacement head badge but that may be asking too much. And Viola! a resuscitated Cinelli!

You are handy, maybe you can do must of this your self. I have the chain stay bridge parts if you need/want them...

Dale

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: euromeccanicany@yahoo.com To: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:30 pm Subject: [CR] Cinelli?

I turn again to the collective wisdom of CR for identifying the frame I just bought on Ebay: http://ebay.com/<blah> After examining the blurry photos for way too long, I thought it might well be a Cinelli. Now that I've got my mitts on it, I grow yet more excited.

Photos taken today, after removing a hodgepodge of 70s era parts (Dura-Ace hubbed wheels & D-A brakes; Huret Jubilee derailleur set, Fiamme bars & TTT stem; the D-A crankset will have to wait until I get a crank puller from home): http://www.flickr.com/photos/28164070@N04/sets/72157622522932222

Here is some relevant data not easily seen in the photos:

1. serial number 3828, stamped on what's left of the bottom bracket on the non-drive side, readable with the bike lying on the drive side 2. 26.2 seat post diameter 3. Cinelli fork crown, but no Columbus dove on the steering tube 4. Campy drop-outs, chromed up the stays a few inches 5. Excellent lugwork 6. Two small head badge rivet holes, exactly halfway between the head tube ends, about 36.5 apart

The paint was stripped before the gray paint was applied, so other than chrome, there is nothing under the paint. The butcher who did the bottom bracket also hacksawed off the chainstay bridge & drilled through the holes in the bottom bracket sleeve right through the seat & down tubes. Vlad the Impaler also drilled out the chainwheels with a 1/16" bit, easily shaving a magnificent .08 oz off their weight. He might also be responsible for two 1/8" holes on either side of the rear brake mount. The seat post is a Campy record with some grooves milled in- SR, maybe, but I suspect some machinist put grooves on a NR post, as they go right through some of the writing engraved on it. Overall, it looks like somebody with time, a drill, a saw and a criminal disregard for aesthetics & sense went at this bike in the 1970s, put on the lightest components he could find, drilled & hacked at the frame, then put it in a garage until now. There is no rust inside the frame, by the way.

People on this list have far more knowledge than I. Any help you can give me in identifying this poor, abused frame will be deeply appreciated. If more specific measurements or photos would be helpful, let me know. I'd also appreciate any ideas for how to proceed with the reconstructive surgery. Thanks! 

Michael Shiffer
EuroMeccanica, Inc.
114 Pearl Street
Mount Vernon, NY 10550
(914) 668-1300
euromeccanicany.com