Re: [CR] Now Non-Decal Questions on Restoring Paramounts

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:34:29 -0700
From: "John D Proch" <johnprochss@yahoo.com>
To: <johnprochss@yahoo.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Now Non-Decal Questions on Restoring Paramounts


Hi Jerry, I believe that all Paramount's pre 74 had large flange Campagnolo Nuovo Record hubs. Could an individual special order small flange hubs on their special order Paramount? I believe that any small flange Campagnolo Nuovo Record hubs could have been special ordered. We have 5 Paramount's, with the newest being a 73. The Tandem Paramount bicycles in 1969 I understood were all special order, unless there was one bought by the Schwinn shop and used for display. We frequented University Schwinn Shop near SMU campus and Crowder Schwinn & Lawn Mower Shop, in Lake Highlands Shopping Center. I thought all Barend Campagnolo shifters used the same shift lever hoods, but again, recently here on this list there have been claims stated that they weren't, which I recently read here and that they were different. Sorry to not have been much help here, and that is what this site is for. When I went into a Schwinn shop in Dallas (Crowder's) to by my new Schwinn, all the Paramount's on display had the 36 H large flange Nuovo Record hubs. This shop was also a Raleigh distributor and all the Internationals and Professionals had the same large flange Nuovo Record hubs. The display counter was a different story. Inside were the large and small flange Campagnolo Nuovo Record hubs displayed for sale. A set of NOS small flange Campagnolo Nuovo Record hubs with skewers in 28,32 and 36 hole drilling was $149.00 in 1973. We have boxes with these price tags on them also. I do not believe the Mavic GP-4 to be as old as 1971. Decals do not stick on chrome well with my experience in auto restoration. The chrome will either need to be scuffed up to be made rough under the chrome (not a great idea), the decals will need to be lightly clear coated or a little of both, but most importantly super clean chemically treated chrome. This is a good question for Brian Bayless. Best Regards, John Proch La Grange, Texas

________________________________ From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 3:58:48 PM Subject: [CR] Now Non-Decal Questions on Restoring Paramounts

While considering the correct decal for my wife's 1970 Touring Paramount, I inspected the other three early 70's all-chrome Paramounts I own.

One is a 1971 racing model I bought from Sam Fitzsimmon's several years ago at Cirque. Although it would be rideable if supplied with new tires, I've never gotten around to sorting it out, as a couple of years after, I picked up two excellent all-chromed Paramounts on eBay for between $1000 and $1100 each. But having looked at the Fitzsimmons bike yesterday, I'm thinking I really should get it sorted out. Each DT decal is about half gone, interestingly such that "Paramount" is present but "Schwinn" missing. The 531 (not the Schwinn version) decal is mostly intact, but the Schwinn seat panel decal is gone.

The bike has an obviously incorrect rear hub with a Normandy Competition hub. The front hub is a small-flange Campy Record with a Mavic dark anodized GP4 tubular rim. Could a 1971 Paramount have had small-flange Campy hubs, perhaps by special order? Is the Mavic GP4 as old as 1971?

The bike has Campy barend shifters, but one of the rubber hoods is damaged. Were the covers for the barends the same as those for the DT shifters? Can any color other than the typical blue be correct for these covers?

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Sring, Texas, USA