I've heard it was a thing that's been done, pack the headset (or cheap hub) with simichrome and use for a bit. Then clean out and re-pack.
Brendan Wm. Casey Twitter @BBBB_WW 238 Powers St. Apt 2R Brooklyn NY 11211
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> 1. Fork restoration! (Steven Brereton)
> 2. Re Jack Taylor Trailers (rdf1249@aol.com)
> 3. Re: riding fixed without brakes (Harry Travis)
> 4. Re: Re Jack Taylor Trailers (Phil Brown)
> 5. Re: ID'ing a French Frame (verktyg)
> 6. Re: Removing braze-ons and this List (Dmitry Yaitskov)
> 7. Re: re; CR ID'ing a French Frame (verktyg)
> 8. Ellis-Briggs Flyer (Norris Lockley)
> 9. Yet more Paramounts (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 10. headset pitting (milosz)
> 11. Re: headset pitting (Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne)
> 12. Re: headset pitting (Tom Harriman)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:06:34 +0100
> From: Steven Brereton <stevenpb@tesco.net>
> Subject: [CR] Fork restoration!
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <A70CED266BB542F0AD61F7B88AA6C589@janet>
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>
> I have a 1978 Viscount Aerospace Sport which is in really good
> condition.
>
> The only problem I have with it is that the Weasel thin chrome on
> the forks is flaking off: a common problem on this model.
>
> The forks are half chromed. The fork paint is absolutely unblemished
> and original. Removing the paint off the fork to make way for
> rechroming and repainting is not an option. Of my 6 "Aerospace"
> Viscounts this Sport has the best paint by a mile: it looks
> virtually as new. I really do not want to repaint it!
>
> I was wondering whether it was possible to dip the fork in an acid
> bath up to where the chrome ends and then get them rechromed. Has
> anyone ever tried this? Is it possible to do this without trashing
> the paint? Alternatively, is there such a thing as a chrome 'touch
> up' kit for home use?
>
> Any thoughts, ideas, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
> Also, has anyone ever seen a Viscount bicycle sales brochure for
> 1975, 1977, 1979, 1980 and 1983? I have 1974, 1976, 1978, 1981 and
> 1982. As far as I can tell, 1983 was the final year (sadly!!!!). A
> former Viscount sales rep told me that a brochure was produced for
> every year but after many years searching the above remain
> incredibly elusive. The sales rep by the way told me that in the UK
> death fork failures were very, very rare. The few that came in were
> almost exclusively due to owner abuse. Also, there was no recall in
> the UK. I know there has been some (actually rather a lot!) debate
> on the death fork over the years but I do wonder how dangerous,
> fragile, etc. it really was. Yamaha's figures showed that
> approximately 0.1% of the death forks sold in the USA failed. To me
> that hardly sounds like the stuff of a legend based on a deadly part.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steven Brereton
> Lancashire
> England
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:08:31 -0400
> From: <rdf1249@aol.com>
> Subject: [CR] Re Jack Taylor Trailers
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <8CC1CAB2F8EDBBB-3D98-7C63@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> From Jan Heine:
>
>
>
> < Then on to the subject of the man who holds the
> trailer.......would you be willing to steal it for me?
>
> For the trailers, again, a few were floating around about 10 years
> ago. They were expensive then, but I bought one anyhow. Haven't
> regretted it, as it comes in handy when my loads exceed the capacity
> of my Grand Bois Urban bike. The "combination" is shown here
>
> http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/
>
> Again, you could build your own trailer - it's like a huge rack...
> but there are many small pieces you'd have to custom-fabricate. You
> could ask a builder to make one, but be prepared to pay at least as
> much as you would for a custom frame.>
>
>
>
> By way of reference, I bought one while visiting the Taylors in Sept
> 1982.
>
> The last one they had that wasn't painted. I paid $550 for it
> then. And keep in mind that
>
> The Taylors really worked for a pittance their whole career.
>
> Convert that to today's dollars and you have an idea of what it
> might cost to make now.
>
> I sold it many years ago but I know where it is. Trying to
> repurchase it before the Classic Bike
>
> Show next Spring when Ken Taylor will be visiting.
>
> regards
>
>
> Bob Freeman Elliott Bay Bicycles 2116 Western Ave Seattle, WA 98121 206-441-8144
> http://www.elliottbaybicycles.com http://www.davidsonbicycles.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:09:56 -0500
> From: Harry Travis <travis.harry@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] riding fixed without brakes
> To: Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID:
> <58dbc8400910161209n726f363dh7ffb66bc23ccecda@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Excellent point, the comparison to danger of others on the track if
> one bike
> had a hand brake. Merging with traffic and consistency with
> expectations of
> others is the issue and requirement.
>
> Some supporting evidence for driver and /or passenger restraint
> mechanisms
> in autos --seat belts and later air-bags -- was that passengers were
> hardly in a position to limit their freedom of movement by not
> riding in
> cars without them; and that on-road usage surveys showed a large
> fraction of
> vehicles driven by people who hadn't purchased the vehicle. So, the
> right to
> not equip for ones own safety put unwitting drivers of the vehicle
> at risk.
>
> All that's required to change many opinions is a large tort settlement
> against an owner who incorrectly assumed that the bike he /she lent
> could be
> safely ridden, without injury to a third party, perhaps a pedestrian
> injured
> in a collision, or worse, a vehicle occupant or other pedestrian
> injured
> while trying to avoid the bike which was not safely ridden but would
> have
> been had the rarer skill of stopping without an accessory brake not
> been
> necessary.
>
> Harry Travis
> New Jersey
> USA.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com
> >wrote:
>
>> Kevin McCaul wrote:
>>
>> "As for brakes, well all I can say is if you feel the need for
>> them, then
>> you
>> probably shouldn't be riding fixed. I've seen firsthand and heard
>> numerous
>> stories of guys flying over the handlebars using them.
>>
>> Then again I'm sure there is a place for brakes in certain
>> circumstances,
>> but I can't think of one that applies to me. Let me know! You ride
>> on the
>> sidewalk only maybe?"
>>
>> ************
>>
>> I'd be interested to know just how many drivers and pedestrians
>> you've
>> terrified in all those years because of what you had to do because
>> you had
>> no brakes. I've seen it many times: fixed riders without brakes
>> doing stuff
>> that should have got them killed, solely because they have no
>> brakes. And
>> scaring the bejesus out of everyone around them in the process.
>>
>> The real tough-guy riders from 50 years ago always had brakes.
>> Purpose-made path-racer bikes from the time nearly always had front
>> brakes.
>> They knew riding without brakes in traffic was simply an
>> irresponsible
>> affectation. Had I not seen the results with my own eyes many
>> times in
>> downtown LA, and elsewhere, I would not post about this, but people
>> riding
>> without brakes give a bad name to all cyclists, regardless of the
>> sort of
>> bike you might ride.
>>
>> I've ridden fixed with brakes many times; I've never even come
>> close to
>> going over the bars. I wouldn't do it any other way, out in traffic.
>>
>> Just as being the only rider with brakes in a group on the track is
>> irresponsible and dangerous--and would never be allowed--so is
>> riding fixed
>> without brakes out in traffic. Same concept. If you're not using
>> brakes
>> out in traffic, you shouldn't be riding fixed.
>>
>> Charles Andrews
>> Los Angeles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "everyone has elites; the important thing is
>> to change them from time to time."
>>
>> --Joseph Schumpeter, via Simon Johnson
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:10:59 -0700
> From: Phil Brown <philcycles@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Re Jack Taylor Trailers
> To: Rendezvous Classic <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <ce8f325131858dd234068744a51b3cb5@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2009, at 12:08 PM, <rdf1249@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Again, you could build your own trailer - it's like a huge rack...
>> but there are many small pieces you'd have to custom-fabricate. You
>> could ask a builder to make one, but be prepared to pay at least as
>> much as you would for a custom frame.>
>>
>
> The web site instructables.com has several plans for bike trailers.
> Phil Brown
> Possessor of a running R65 in Oakland, Calif
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:40:32 -0700
> From: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] ID'ing a French Frame
> To: Sean Flores <seaneee175@gmail.com>,
> <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <4AD8CC30.2010600@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> The frame has a TA bottom bracket. The headset looks like a Lightrace
> which was below a Stronglight P3 in quality. The forks may be from a
> different bike because the finish ate the dropouts id different from
> the
> "fish mouth" finish on the tubing where the rear dropouts attach.
> Maybe
> not, I've seen French bikes with mixed finish at the dropouts too.
>
> The stem looks like one that was used on Peugeot mixtes in the mid
> 70s.
>
> It could be a Lejeune.
>
> Chas. Colerich
> Oakland, CA USA
>
>
> Sean Flores wrote:
>> A friend of mine has a frame lying around and he's trying to figure
>> out
>> what it is. Originally he thought it was a schwinn or a raleigh,
>> but I
>> talked him off of that :)
>>
>> I guessed french due to the wrap around seat stays, nevex, etc. He
>> measured the stem size and clamp, 22.0/25.0. So French it is. I was
>> thinking maybe a Follis, but not sure. Pics here:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/
>>
>> Any suggestions or thoughts?
>>
>> Sean Flores
>> San Francisco, CA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:42:23 -0400
> From: Dmitry Yaitskov <dima@rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Removing braze-ons and this List
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <1259140953.20091016154223@rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
>
> Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:45:51 PM, Harry Travis wrote:
>
>> Dremel handheld high-speed grinders or equal (which isn't saying
>> much if you use German tools) are often recommended here for clean
>> cut-off of cable housing.
>
> FWIW, YMMV etc - I tried to cut a modern shifter cable housing with my
> Dremel once - one of the steel threads (which are not really
> intertwined in such housing) caught on the cutting wheel and pulled
> out. Been using my Park cable cutter to cut cables since - works fine
> even if some filing of the cut afterwards does help.
>
> <snip-snip-snip>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Dmitry Yaitskov,
> Toronto, Canada.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:04:54 -0700
> From: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] re; CR ID'ing a French Frame
> To: <westown1@att.net>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <4AD8D1E6.10702@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> Chris,
>
> It's not a Gitane.
>
> They never used Prugnat type 62D lugs: http://tinyurl.com/
>
> The Super Corsa and earlier Tour de France models used Prugnat Type S
> "Italian Style" lugs: http://tinyurl.com/
>
> Later TdFs used Bocama Professional lugs.
>
> Also Gitane never had wrap over seat stays nor did they use the
> diamond
> chainstay bridge reinforcements.
>
> Most early Gitane SCs and TdFs came with Nervex Professional fork
> crowns
> which were later changed to Nervex DuBois crowns probably around 1972.
> At the height of the Bike Boom they also used a variety of Wagner
> crowns
> (maybe in the late 60s too).
>
> Chas. Colerich with a dozen classic Gitanes
> Oakland, CA USA
>
>
> westown1@att.net wrote:
>> Sean, I am no expert but see similar features in the
>> Gitane Super Corsa maybe or Tour De France maybe?
>> Gitane has some decal confusion between the SC
>> and the TDF model which makes an ID harder to nail down.
>> Their site says the main difference was Campagnolo dropouts vs.
>> Simplex and
>> spiked Vagner fork crowns. Then again, a TDF pic is on their site
>> with
>> Campy dropouts.
>> <www.gitaneusa.com/images/models/tourdefrance/1970GitaneTourdeFrance.jpg
>> >
>> So ????
>>
>> Chris Plunkett
>> Chicago, IL
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:17:37 +0100
> From: Norris Lockley <nlockley73@googlemail.com>
> Subject: [CR] Ellis-Briggs Flyer
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
> <29cfc1e00910161317w5e25b060j5e11fd7707a477a1@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> As a Yorkshireman bred and born about eighteen miles away from Ellis-
> Briggs'
> Shipley bikeshop I used to call in very reguarly in the early and
> mid-50s..in the hey-day of ken Russell, Brian and Des Robinson, Ken
> Balmforth to name but a few who rode the E-B brand.
> In those days one of the popular meal-stops was was about twelve miles
> further on at Otley in Wharfedale...in those days a beautiful little
> market
> town, where we all used to meet up ..the BLRC racing boys, the CTC
> clubmen
> and girls, the Clarion riders, the NCU fast men..and the many
> unattached
> sporting cyclists...to eat, drink and generally ogle each others'
> bikes in
> the large courtyard of Ye Olde Bente Poker cafe. It was amazing the
> different brands and types of bikes that the different allegiances
> rode. I
> reckon I would browse with my nose pressed against the E-B shop
> window at
> least twice a month.
>
> There were plenty of Briggs' about, mostly with Nervex or Ekla lugs
> and some
> such as the Superbe and International models with hand-fretted ones.
> All
> were well-built capable standard machines ie no funny designs
>
> It wasn't until some forty years later that I learned that Ellis-
> Briggs did
> however have flights of fancy back in the day, with one particular
> short-lived model standing out - twin-curved seat tube short-
> wheelbased
> model. I have never seen one in the flesh but Mark Stevens the CR
> LIst's
> resident Gillott expert did find one lurking nor far from his home and
> captured some photos of the odd machine...very odd machine indeed. The
> Briggs' experts whom I contacted about this design, one of whom had
> actually
> owned one, told me that only six were made. Why am I not surprised?
> An SWB
> bike does not need both a curved seat tube AND double seat tubes
> after the
> Saxon style.
>
> So we move on to Wyndham's Flyer model. This is as much as a
> discovery for
> me as the earlier double-curved seat tube model was! But I have a
> theory !
>
> Ellis-Briggs' shop is on the NE side of the large city of Bradford.
> About a
> ten-minute ride into Bradford away, there was the shop of W R
> Baines, makers
> of the Flying Gate SWB..not too far from Baines the keen rider could
> find
> Whitaker and Mapplebeck's shop (later to become Pennine Cycles),
> close by
> was Geoff??? another frame-builder, another shop sold Saxons..and
> half-an-hour away there was Walter Grieves..building his unusual
> SWBs. Also
> within the immediate area several shops sold Jack Taylor curved seat
> tube
> models...and let's not forget the PARIS Galibier that was really
> making
> waves among the elite riders. That too was widely available.
>
> Briggs' desperately needed a "funny" ie SWB frame design to compete
> with the
> other builders. Clearly the short-lived double curved seat tube
> design left
> much to be desired in terms of riding experience.
>
> My take on the Flyer model is that it was Ellis-Briggs' answer to the
> competition. The design was certainly not new, as it had been used
> by SUN
> Cycles for their Manx TT model, from the late 40s and by
> R.O.Harrison, of
> London for their Shortwin model..although this also had twin D-
> section down
> tubes...but it was tested and rode well...
>
> I would like to think that I am correct in my assumption that the
> Flyer
> superceded the ill-fated twin-curved-seat tube model in Briggs'
> catalogue..and I suspect that that earlier model was also called the
> Flyer....trading on the reputation of Carlton's very popular and
> successful
> frame of the same name.
>
> What would such a frame be used for? Probably it would be a double-
> purpose
> bike..for general Club riding with mudguards, and saddle bag...and
> then..come Sunday morning, in stripped down form ie less guards and
> bag it
> would become the time-trial machine.. As Crumpy and I have pointed out
> before..we were lucky if we had more than one bike..and if we had
> they would
> be a dual purpose road machine and then a dual purpose road-track
> iron.
> Sprints would be carried on a pair of cranked Cyclo brackets
> fastened to the
> front wheel axle with the upper part of the wheels strapped to the
> bars with
> toe-straps. We simply rode everywhere..and stopped overnight in Youth
> Hostels, Clarion Club houses or B-and-Bs
>
> Before Chapter Two - Ellis-Briggs Flyer - The Frame..I will take
> time out to
> phone a mate of mine who might just have more chapter and verse on
> this
> machine.
>
>
> Norris Lockley
>
> wallowing in nostalgia, Settle UK
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:21:37 -0700
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [CR] Yet more Paramounts
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <859684.47210.qm@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Attached are a couple of photos of an "Elite Series" Paramount along
> with the decal set used:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
> According to the history on the Waterford site, the Elite Series was
> built from 1980 through 1983, thus fitting just within the CR
> timeline. This was the first Paramount series built under the
> supervision of Marc Muller, after production shifted from Chicago to
> Waterford.
>
> The history says "Marc got approval to begin using Columbus SL and
> SP tubing." But this bike shows what looks like a Reynolds 531
> decal on the seattube. Perhaps only some Elite Paramounts used
> Columbus.
>
> Anyone have a 1980-1983 "Elite Series" Paramount? What is the
> tubing? Where is the decal placed? I have a frame like this
> (except blue) with only some decals present. BTW, the seattube
> panel decal is, AFAIK, much older than the decal set typically used
> on this model. Perhaps this was a custom order or someone just
> obtained and applied the older single decal.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> big Spring, Texas, USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:59 -0400
> From: milosz <mewash@gmail.com>
> Subject: [CR] headset pitting
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
> <875729680910161329k65686537v9bc514323945aa7d@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> hi all,
>
> so, i just got a (slightly off-topic) headset from ebay, and on
> receiving it discovered that the head tube race is slightly pitted
> (probably a dozen light pits each about a millimeter high). otherwise
> it's in pretty good shape... do people think this is a big deal? if i
> run a ballpoint pen along the race it just barely finds the pits. i
> do plan to ride the bike i put it on =)
>
> alternately, does anyone have a c-record headtube race they can sell
> me? =)
>
> thanks,
>
> milosz meller
> brooklyn, ny
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:47:48 -0400
> From: Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] headset pitting
> To: <mewash@gmail.com>, CR discussion list
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <COL113-W3800D332D06744AD068B6AF5C40@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I have heard of mechanics doing one of two things to slightly pitted
> headsets:
> 1) Re-packing and rotating the cups to avoid alignment of the
> brindled races and subsequent "hang up" spots.
> 2) Repacking the headset with loose (rather than caged) ball
> bearings and plenty o' grease.
> If ya can't find another race/cup, I'd give one of these a shot...
> Though I gotta admit I have never tried the latter.? Can anybody
> offer an explanation as to why this might improve the headset's
> performance? Is it just that a caged bearing set will have pits at
> even spaced and looes bearings are, well, loose and subsequently
> unevenly spaced (and thus less likely to get caught up in the same
> spots)?
>
> Matthew Bowne
> also in
> Brooklyn, New York
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:59 -0400
>> From: mewash@gmail.com
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: [CR] headset pitting
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> so, i just got a (slightly off-topic) headset from ebay, and on
>> receiving it discovered that the head tube race is slightly pitted
>> (probably a dozen light pits each about a millimeter high). otherwise
>> it's in pretty good shape... do people think this is a big deal? if i
>> run a ballpoint pen along the race it just barely finds the pits. i
>> do plan to ride the bike i put it on =)
>>
>> alternately, does anyone have a c-record headtube race they can
>> sell me? =)
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> milosz meller
>> brooklyn, ny
>> _______________________________________________
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:58:43 +0000
> From: Tom Harriman <transition202@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] headset pitting
> To: <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>, <mewash@gmail.com>, Classic
> Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY140-W7E2408DDC9064B612152AF0C40@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Good afternoon all.
> My understanding is that by adding more loss balls, the pressures
> are more evenly distributed around the race. I have been doing this
> for many years now, and have gotten allot of life out my headsets.
>
> I hope everyone has a bike ride planned for this nice fall weekend.
>
> Tom Harriman.
> San Francisco, Ca.
>
>> From: devotion_finesse@hotmail.com
>> To: mewash@gmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:47:48 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [CR] headset pitting
>>
>>
>> I have heard of mechanics doing one of two things to slightly
>> pitted headsets:
>> 1) Re-packing and rotating the cups to avoid alignment of the
>> brindled races and subsequent "hang up" spots.
>> 2) Repacking the headset with loose (rather than caged) ball
>> bearings and plenty o' grease.
>> If ya can't find another race/cup, I'd give one of these a shot...
>> Though I gotta admit I have never tried the latter. Can anybody
>> offer an explanation as to why this might improve the headset's
>> performance? Is it just that a caged bearing set will have pits at
>> even spaced and looes bearings are, well, loose and subsequently
>> unevenly spaced (and thus less likely to get caught up in the same
>> spots)?
>>
>> Matthew Bowne
>> also in
>> Brooklyn, New York
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:59 -0400
>>> From: mewash@gmail.com
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR] headset pitting
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> so, i just got a (slightly off-topic) headset from ebay, and on
>>> receiving it discovered that the head tube race is slightly pitted
>>> (probably a dozen light pits each about a millimeter high).
>>> otherwise
>>> it's in pretty good shape... do people think this is a big deal?
>>> if i
>>> run a ballpoint pen along the race it just barely finds the pits. i
>>> do plan to ride the bike i put it on =)
>>>
>>> alternately, does anyone have a c-record headtube race they can
>>> sell me? =)
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> milosz meller
>>> brooklyn, ny
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