Re: [CR] Campy "No Record" Hubs and Paramount Drilling

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:28:27 -0700
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <FujiFish1@aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <d34.5a1ede99.3810c049@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Campy "No Record" Hubs and Paramount Drilling


I'd love to see pics. What I have here is double-drilled Large Flange Campy hub WITHOUT "Record" on the hub. I'll try to post some pics as well.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Wed, 10/21/09, FujiFish1@aol.com wrote:


> From: FujiFish1@aol.com <FujiFish1@aol.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Campy "No Record" Hubs and Paramount Drilling

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Cc: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net

\r?\n> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:51 PM

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

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\r?\n> Hi Jerry,

\r?\n> Point one, is that although the "new" hubs

\r?\n> with RECORD on the barrels began

\r?\n> to be in production in 62-63, there were still a fair

\r?\n> amount of "No-Record"

\r?\n> hubshells hanging around, waiting to be built with

\r?\n> hardware, and put into

\r?\n> wheels.  I have seen many of these hubs with locknuts

\r?\n> dated for 1965, which

\r?\n> is not an exact science, but indicates that they were

\r?\n> assembled to sale or use

\r?\n> in 1965 or thereafter.

\r?\n>  

\r?\n> Point two, is that the 1970s double drilled Paramount

\r?\n> hubs have RECORD on

\r?\n> the barrels ... in fact, these are the only type of the

\r?\n> Paramount hub I've

\r?\n> seen.  Have a set here, if you would like to see

\r?\n> pics.

\r?\n>  

\r?\n> The story I heard here is that Schwinn drilled out the

\r?\n> existing spoke holes

\r?\n> to help the spoke heads sit more flush in the flange, and

\r?\n> that the idea didn't

\r?\n> work out too well, causing them to have to re-drill new

\r?\n> spoke holes, in between

\r?\n> the larger, now "ruined" holes.  Use

\r?\n> the small holes.

\r?\n>  

\r?\n> Ciao,

\r?\n> Mark Agree

\r?\n> Southfield MI USA

\r?\n> ~ ~ ~

\r?\n>

\r?\n>  

\r?\n> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:36:13 -0700

\r?\n> From: Jerome & Elizabeth

\r?\n> Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Campy "No Record" Hubs and

\r?\n> Paramount Drilling

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Looking through the parts bin I came upon a hub I

\r?\n> didn't know I had.  It is a Campy Record Large

\r?\n> Flange, but drilled with an

\r?\n> extra set of holes between the usual ones, i.e there are 72

\r?\n> holes rather than

\r?\n> 36.  I've read here these were made for Schwinn

\r?\n> for Paramounts.  What,

\r?\n> again, was the purpose of the added drilling?  I note

\r?\n> the added holes are a

\r?\n> bit larger than the standard ones.  Which set did one

\r?\n> actually lace the

\r?\n> spokes through?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Another thing I note is that the hub is marked

\r?\n> Campagnolo, but NOT "Record".  Chuck's

\r?\n> timeline says the word "Record" was

\r?\n> added in 1963, so this hub would have to be very late

\r?\n> 50's or very early

\r?\n> 60's.  Were all the double-drilled Schwinn hubs

\r?\n> from this period, or did

\r?\n> they appear on the later Record-marked hubs as

\r?\n> well?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Regards,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jerry

\r?\n> Moos