With that color head tube, I've seen a silverish paint color on the rest of the frame.
Good luck.
Todd Teachout (owner of a Legnano Green/White Specialissima model from 1972 and a Blue/White undetermined model (gran Premio) from 1969 or 1970.
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> 1. Re: Harry Quinn is alive and building in Seattle (sort of)
> (RDF1249@aol.com)
> 2. Re: Stronglight Powercam? (Kurt Sperry)
> 3. Re: Original NR Triple vs. drilled and tapped NR Double
> Converted (Brad Luecke)
> 4. Re: UPS Shipping - fedex major problem! (hersefan@comcast.net)
> 5. Re: randonneur handlebars (frederic durrette)
> 6. Help with 1950's? Legnano frame ID (Rachael Ramos)
> 7. FS: Campagnolo, alloy Everest freewheels, Phil Wood, and
> more (hersefan@comcast.net)
> 8. Rigida AL 1320 Red Label (Charles Hobbs)
> 9. Re: UPS Shipping - fedex major problem! (pbbikes)
> 10. WTT: Campy Pista Crankset for Campy Pista Crankset (sean flores)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:20 -0400
> From: <RDF1249@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Harry Quinn is alive and building in Seattle (sort
> of)
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <brsamson@telus.net>
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> In a message dated 10/27/2009 1:01:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org writes:
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:35 -0700
> From: Brian Samson <brsamson@telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Harry Quinn is alive and building in Seattle (sort
> of)
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <D0CCF03B-2627-4417-871E-21E3C1B9AFA1@telus.net>
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> Very interesting. I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. I
> have
> two Davidsons, a 73 and a 79, and they are not only beautifully made
> but also two of my favorite bikes to ride.
>
> My 1973 (first year) Davidson has the same brazed-on nuts for the
> water bottle cage as the 72 Quinn now on ebay. I asked Bill about it
> and he said there wasn't much else available at the time.
>
> Brian Samson
> Vancouver, BC, Canada
>
>
> Having seen many Harry Quinns, and bought and sold a couple, I would
> have
> to say the skills of the student far exceeded those of the teacher.
> Perhaps it was that back in the day, some Brits were just into
> making practical
> bikes that anyone could afford, so kept them simple with a minimum of
> adornment and detail work. But Bill has always insisted on clean
> lines, thin
> sharp lug edges, impeccable finish, and a great ride. Harry's
> bikes were
> pretty plain and a little crude by comparison. He did have some
> avant garde
> geometries though, with very short chainstays and steep angles. And
> he did
> some ultralight stuff too. We repaired one this year that went back
> to its
> original owner in Australia, that had extremely light chainstays.
> They had
> broken and been fixed and broken again, so we replaced them with
> something
> modern and strong but looking original.
>
> Brian, I hope you will consider bringing your bikes down to the
> classic
> bike show at the Seattle Bike Expo March 13-14. I will be
> displaying among
> other bikes a Davidson track bike of that era, and my 1979 road
> bike. The
> track bike belonged to Jane Robinson, women's US national road
> champion of
> 1975, who returned it to us this year.
>
> shamelessly self-promoting,
>
>
> Bob Freeman
> Elliott Bay Bicycles
> 2116 Western Ave
> Seattle, WA 98121
> 206-441-8144
> Home of Davidson Handbuilt Bicycles
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:31:05 -0700
> From: Kurt Sperry <haxixe@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Stronglight Powercam?
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> The Powercam had no connection to Stronglight. It was another of
> those many engineering and commercial flops that were claimed (and
> failed) to make pedaling a bicycle more efficient. These were built in
> Texas by an outfit calling itself Houdaille. There's more online
> including a page on the CR site.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham, Washington
> USA
>
> 2009/10/27 sean flores <seaneee175@gmail.com>:
>> Came across this:
>>
>> http://ebay.com/
>>
>> Apologies if it's not on topic, but it's very curious. Looks like
>> it's
>> based around a Stronglight 99 crankset. Any ideas on this one. My
>> only
>> guess is something like Shimano FFS, but built into the crankarm.
>>
>> Couldn't seem to find any info on this. Not in the market, but I'm
>> always curious about odd parts.
>>
>> Sean Flores
>> San Francisco, CA
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:32:54 -0500
> From: Brad Luecke <brluecke@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Original NR Triple vs. drilled and tapped NR Double
> Converted
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Can't claim to be an expert. But a data point.
>
> Back in the early 70's I, kind of, tried this conversion on a 1971
> (ish)
> International.
> The crank was a Sugino Mity Tour 34-42-52 if I remember correctly.
> The Round-Oval-Round chain stays didn't allow a very good chain line
> And the deraillers of the day, Suntour GT (of some flavor) and
> Shimano long
> cage (Deore? probably too early?) didn't really work very well with
> the
> short chain stays. I ended up going back to the original Campy
> deraillers
> and a 28T large cog on the freewheel and the Campy NR Double 52-43
>
> I know there are a ton of modern bikes with triples in front and short
> chainstays, but with the existing stuff back then, I could not make
> it work
> well enough for me to use.
>
> I guess my point is, this might work if you use modern cranks,
> deraillers,
> chains and the other stuff, but using vintage stuff the performance
> is not
> going to be great.
>
> AND as usual, YMMV
>
> later
> Brad Luecke
> Columbia Missouri, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:45:11 +0000
> From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] UPS Shipping - fedex major problem!
> To: <gear@xmission.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, crumpy6204@aol.com
> Message-ID:
>
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>
> Perhaps I missed it, but there is a huge problem with shipping our
> vintage goodies by fedex. Regardless of any insurance you purchase,
> if the item is "vintage", they will try to refuse any claim made.
>
> In the Fedex manual, it clearly states that Fedex will not insure
> vintage/collectible items for more than $100. So if the item is
> older, techically, they will give you $100 and send you on your
> merry way.
>
> Now, I'm sure most folks if their Colnago gets destroyed in shiping
> will claim replacement cost for a new one, but if your invoice shows
> old colnago road bike, you are doomed.
>
> How do we know? Because we had a package completely lost by Fedex a
> couple of years ago, and they demanded an invoice from our supplier
> showing replacement cost. There was some old parts in there, and
> once I said it was hard to determine value as the items were older,
> they tried to get out of the entire claim.
>
> I pressed hard, and argued that one wholesaler (EuroAsia) still
> listed the items in their catalog. I made the analogy that if we
> were selling repair parts for old Maytag washing machines, the parts
> might be older, but they certainly should be insurable.
>
> They finally relented, paid the claim, and made it clear that my
> account was noted that they will never make such an exception.
>
> We still ship by fedex, but simply guarantee to our customers that
> the item will arrive.
>
> Now if there is a high value item, we go to UPS and pay the higher
> rate, as their rulebook last I checked does not prohibit insurance
> on older items.
>
> Now for USPS? We've had great luck. I think we've lost two
> packages with them (and only one priority one) in the past 24
> months. That is really a great number considering our volume of
> shipping. A friend pointed out that steeling a USPS package is a
> Federal crime. So on average, it keeps things in line. Like the
> Ford mechanic who always complains that Fords (or whatever their
> dealer specializes in) break, the USPS folks probably only hear
> about the ones that are lost, and certainly not what is lost or
> destroyed with the other guys.
>
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO USA
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gear@xmission.com
> To: crumpy6204@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:57:46 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
> Mountain
> Subject: Re: [CR] UPS Shipping
>
> Hi All,
>
> John, I've used that store (I believe it may be the same one that you
> used) often. Without fail the in-store cost is more than the online
> cost given by the UPS website. To be fair to that store, I've had the
> same experience with the other 'Brown' store in our town. Nowadays, I
> print the label at home, paid thru paypal, and drop off the package.
> If I can't do that, I take it to the FedEx depot a few miles north.
>
> In years past, and for several years, my business shipped daily, a lot
> of bikes and whole bunch of frames. We always took these directly to
> the UPS Depot for drop off and occasionally got the 'we need to see
> the packing method' and had to open the box for their inspection.
> Never did we have to stand by while they repackaged something. A
> couple of times, they offered additional packing material if they felt
> nervous about damage. Usually a good experience, there, though.
>
> However! It was a damage claim issue that made us switch to FedEx. And
> if I recall correctly, this subject has been discussed on these pages
> before - the UPS 'insurance' is actually a third party company (and I
> think FedEx is, too now iirc), and it is not in that company's best
> (financial) interest to honor and pay claims. I think the stubbornness
> over packaging is probably a result of unhappy UPS customers who have
> returned to their local store looking for satisfaction and getting
> none. In my own experience, as a business that shipped multiple items
> daily, there was a myriad of hoops to jump through and many calls that
> were 'dropped' while on hold to try to get finality and claims
> payments for damage from UPS's contractor. I'm talking weeks to
> months.
>
> After the switch to FedEx, this was reduced by maybe half in terms of
> effort, time and headache. So, in answer (my own opinion) to your
> question 'which company is best?' There isn't one. I think FedEx is
> better, but I found myself frustrated with both, just for a lesser
> amount of time with FedEx.
>
> And USPS? Seems quickest, more costly for sure. We were advised (by
> someone at USPS) to either not insure expensive items or to ship
> elsewhere as they have the most 'lost shipments' if items are insured
> for more than a couple hundred dollars. Apparently, there is a
> warehouse in St Louis, again iirc, where all of the lost items end up.
> Hmmm, wonder what all one could find in there?
>
> Greg Overton
> my 2 cents, perhaps overpriced at that
> near Denver, Colorado
>
>
>
> Quoting crumpy6204@aol.com:
>
>> Thanks everyone for all the interest in this problem. Has anyone
>> ever had a problem filing a claim against UPS for damaged goods and
>> been turned down DUE to the method of packing. ie NOT boxed and
>> packed by UPS, Also what experience filing claims against other
>> carriers Fed Ex USPS Etc? Anyone ever actually got paid for a claim
>> filed? With all the goods shipped these days who IS the best
>> carrier and is customer friendly? I know we all ship our treasures
>> back and forth probably without any thought as to them getting there
>> in good nick! maybe we should ALL think a BIT before shipping,
>> Cheers John Crump OldneverhadaclaimBrit. Parker. Co USA
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:48:28 -0700
> From: frederic durrette <saint09@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] randonneur handlebars
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <95710.41078.qm@web180415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Thanks to all who responded with info and advice. I really learned a
> lot in the past two days, but then you guys are a treasure trove of
> insight and information.
> ???? Fred Durrette
> ???? Summerville, SC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:02:19 -0700
> From: Rachael Ramos <ooki1998@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] Help with 1950's? Legnano frame ID
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <882609.97862.qm@web52510.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> There are 2 pix of the Legnano I mentioned in an earlier post here...
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
> I am told it is a late 50's model but the seller does not know
> which. No tubing decals to help with the ID either.
>
> Can anyone tell from the lugs and/or seatpost binder? Also, the
> traces of paint are what he says is the original color along with
> the red head tube (not burgundy as I had previously said...)
>
> Thanks all
>
> George Ramos
> Portland, OR
> USA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:02:55 +0000
> From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
> Subject: [CR] FS: Campagnolo, alloy Everest freewheels, Phil Wood, and
> more
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
>
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>
> Hi CR folks,
>
> A few newly arived items CR folks might like, and some special
> offers as well on some neat items from our stock. Prices good while
> specified quantities are available or until mid-day friday October
> 30. Prices do not include shipping.
>
> Everest Alloy 7sp freewheel 12-19. New in the platic container.
> Yep, a gear for the very strong rider. But of course, also
> spectacular for display. With a 12-19 you can get a better look at
> the hub. Of course if you are a flat-land crit rider, all the
> better. These exotica items are usually mighty valuable. But we
> are offering them for just $45. We have 3 available at this price.
>
> Campagnolo Vertical dropout set. Two fronts and two rears. New of
> course. $24. Four sets available at this price.
>
> Campagnolo 1010 dropouts - the long ones with eyelets. You get two
> fronts and two rears, as well as a set of adjusters with the plastic
> ends. $ 38. 3 Sets available at this price.
>
> Campagnolo Triumph crown race. This crown race is actually almost
> identical to the early thicker Nuovo Record headset crown races from
> the late 1960's and early 1970's. It will of course work with
> Triumph and Victory headsets too. New of course. $ 17. 4
> available at this price.
>
> Campagnolo old grey cable housing. This stuff is actually most
> likely the really early non-stainles gear housing from a long long
> time ago. But it works wonderfuly for brakes, and has a wonderful
> 1950's/1960's look to it. You get two pieces, long enough to set up
> a bike with centerpulls for frames up to about 24". Note that this
> stuff seems identical to the housing supplied with Universal mod 61
> brakesets as well. $ 19 for two bikes worth. 4 of these two-bike
> sets available at this price.
>
> Front axle set for Campagnolo Tippo quick release hubs (just the
> front). You get the axle, locknuts, lockwashers, and cones. $ 12.
> 4 available at this price.
>
>
> If interested, please email to
>
> reneherse@comcast.net - this email box is for the newsgroups and
> emails get lost easily.
>
> We will confirm if your desired items are still available, and give
> you the shipping total. You can then paypal the funds or arrange
> something else.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Mike Kone
> Rene Herse Bicycles Inc. Boulder CO 80304 USA
> http://www.renehersebicycles.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:20:45 -0600
> From: Charles Hobbs <hobbs.charles1@gmail.com>
> Subject: [CR] Rigida AL 1320 Red Label
> To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
> <36a79ac00910271620o4812cafby8d005ec6461fa2e2@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> I was building a wheel with this particular rim (36 hole), and, in a
> regrettable attempt to reach "modern" spoke tension, I ended up with
> an
> oversized potato chip. I detensioned the entire wheel and started
> over. Now
> I have a straight, apparently serviceable wheel with one exception.
>
> At the joint where the rim is pinned, the rim is slightly shifted
> and is no
> longer smoothly joined. I realize that this will cause braking
> problems,
> but my bigger question is whether the integrity of the rim is now in
> doubt.
> Can anybody share any information about how resilient one of these
> rims
> might be? Or should I chalk this one up as a learning experience?
>
> Charles Hobbs
> Ft. Morgan
> Colorado, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:22:01 -0700
> From: pbbikes <pbbikes@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] UPS Shipping - fedex major problem!
> To: <hersefan@comcast.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, crumpy6204@aol.com
> Message-ID:
> <3eb5ff10910271622y65c3e195g4bf22291613fb088@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> I find usps the best most coat effective and easiest route unless it's
> complete bikes. I ship multiple packages daily, almost exclusively
> priority mail and have had great success. Lately there have been
> problems with customers priority mail packages disappearing and then
> resurfacing days or a week later, even when tracking showed they were
> delivered.
>
> These days I am very reluctant to ship a complete bike with anyone.
> I've shipped many in the past including overseas. Usps size
> restrictions and " ballon rate" policy male the price double. I tried
> shipping a set of rims to taiwan yesterday and a 5 # package that was
> as small as can be safely was ballooned to 9# and only one method was
> available at $158
>
> Does anyone have experience with fedex or ups with rims, wheels, bikes
> international?
>
> Back on the complete bike topic , last bike that I shipped was my bob
> Jackson from ny to ca. $65. I was excited but two months later they
> billed me for another $65. Saying it was oversize which it wasn't.
> Last one shipped by them. Somehow I've continued to receive bikes (
> including an offtopic 30# giant reign) for $60 from other sellers. I
> shhipped bikes frequently years ago when I worked in shops but it
> seems rates and restrictions have changed
>
> that's my two cents.
>
> Barry Scott
> almost home from oregon
> mount Shasta ca USA
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, <hersefan@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Perhaps I missed it, but there is a huge problem with shipping our
>> vintage goodies by fedex. Regardless of any insurance you purchase,
>> if the item is "vintage", they will try to refuse any claim made.
>>
>> In the Fedex manual, it clearly states that Fedex will not insure
>> vintage/collectible items for more than $100. ?So if the item is
>> older, techically, they will give you $100 and send you on your
>> merry way.
>>
>> Now, I'm sure most folks if their Colnago gets destroyed in shiping
>> will claim replacement cost for a new one, but if your invoice
>> shows old colnago road bike, you are doomed.
>>
>> How do we know? ?Because we had a package completely lost by Fedex
>> a couple of years ago, and they demanded an invoice from our
>> supplier showing replacement cost. ?There was some old parts in
>> there, and once I said it was hard to determine value as the items
>> were older, they tried to get out of the entire claim.
>>
>> I pressed hard, and argued that one wholesaler (EuroAsia) still
>> listed the items in their catalog. ?I made the analogy that if we
>> were selling repair parts for old Maytag washing machines, the
>> parts might be older, but they certainly should be insurable.
>>
>> They finally relented, paid the claim, and made it clear that my
>> account was noted that they will never make such an exception.
>>
>> We still ship by fedex, but simply guarantee to our customers that
>> the item will arrive.
>>
>> Now if there is a high value item, we go to UPS and pay the higher
>> rate, as their rulebook last I checked does not prohibit insurance
>> on older items.
>>
>> Now for USPS? ?We've had great luck. ?I think we've lost two
>> packages with them (and only one priority one) in the past 24
>> months. ?That is really a great number considering our volume of
>> shipping. ?A friend pointed out that steeling a USPS package is a
>> Federal crime. ?So on average, it keeps things in line. ?Like the
>> Ford mechanic who always complains that Fords (or whatever their
>> dealer specializes in) break, the USPS folks probably only hear
>> about the ones that are lost, and certainly not what is lost or
>> destroyed with the other guys.
>>
>> Mike Kone in Boulder CO USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: gear@xmission.com
>> To: crumpy6204@aol.com
>> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:57:46 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
>> Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [CR] UPS Shipping
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> John, I've used that store (I believe it may be the same one that you
>> used) often. Without fail the in-store cost is more than the online
>> cost given by the UPS website. To be fair to that store, I've had the
>> same experience with the other 'Brown' store in our town. Nowadays, I
>> print the label at home, paid thru paypal, and drop off the package.
>> If I can't do that, I take it to the FedEx depot a few miles north.
>>
>> In years past, and for several years, my business shipped daily, a
>> lot
>> of bikes and whole bunch of frames. We always took these directly to
>> the UPS Depot for drop off and occasionally got the 'we need to see
>> the packing method' and had to open the box for their inspection.
>> Never did we have to stand by while they repackaged something. A
>> couple of times, they offered additional packing material if they
>> felt
>> nervous about damage. Usually a good experience, there, though.
>>
>> However! It was a damage claim issue that made us switch to FedEx.
>> And
>> if I recall correctly, this subject has been discussed on these pages
>> before - the UPS 'insurance' is actually a third party company (and I
>> think FedEx is, too now iirc), and it is not in that company's best
>> (financial) interest to honor and pay claims. I think the
>> stubbornness
>> over packaging is probably a result of unhappy UPS customers who have
>> returned to their local store looking for satisfaction and getting
>> none. In my own experience, as a business that shipped multiple items
>> daily, there was a myriad of hoops to jump through and many calls
>> that
>> were 'dropped' while on hold to try to get finality and claims
>> payments for damage from UPS's contractor. I'm talking weeks to
>> months.
>>
>> After the switch to FedEx, this was reduced by maybe half in terms of
>> effort, time and headache. So, in answer (my own opinion) to your
>> question 'which company is best?' There isn't one. I think FedEx is
>> better, but I found myself frustrated with both, just for a lesser
>> amount of time with FedEx.
>>
>> And USPS? Seems quickest, more costly for sure. We were advised (by
>> someone at USPS) to either not insure expensive items or to ship
>> elsewhere as they have the most 'lost shipments' if items are insured
>> for more than a couple hundred dollars. Apparently, there is a
>> warehouse in St Louis, again iirc, where all of the lost items end
>> up.
>> Hmmm, wonder what all one could find in there?
>>
>> Greg Overton
>> my 2 cents, perhaps overpriced at that
>> near Denver, Colorado
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting crumpy6204@aol.com:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for all the interest in this problem. Has anyone
>>> ever had a problem filing a claim against UPS for damaged goods and
>>> been turned down DUE to the method of packing. ?ie NOT boxed and
>>> packed by UPS, ?Also what experience filing claims against other
>>> carriers Fed Ex USPS Etc? ?Anyone ever actually got paid for a claim
>>> ?filed? ?With all the goods shipped these days who IS the best
>>> carrier and is customer friendly? ?I know we all ship our treasures
>>> back and forth probably without any thought as to them getting there
>>> ?in good nick! ?maybe we should ALL think a BIT before shipping,
>>> Cheers John Crump OldneverhadaclaimBrit. Parker. Co USA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:26:40 -0700
> From: sean flores <seaneee175@gmail.com>
> Subject: [CR] WTT: Campy Pista Crankset for Campy Pista Crankset
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> Hey all. Is anyone in need of a 151 bcd pista crankset for a
> restoration project? I'd like to trade off the arms for a 144 bcd set,
> preferably early 80's (1980-1983) for my 1982 Bianchi Super Pista.
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> I can also throw in a Dura Ace or Sugino ring to get you started.
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> Please contact me offlist.
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> Cheers.
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> Sean Flores
> San Francisco, CA
> USA
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