Re: [CR] Tubular tyre diameter

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From: "Andrew R Stewart" <onetenth@earthlink.net>
To: Ken <ken@kfhume.freeserve.co.uk>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <C5A43881935D4269955BEF59A1EC0356@laptop>
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:47:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR] Tubular tyre diameter


Ken- Back in the day we thought that velox tape was for roadside repairs only. I've gone through many rolls (the second half of one is in my Sunday bike's bag). The common understanding was that the tape was not strong enough to secure a tire that wasn't already glued, if used for really hard or aggressive cornering. As a spare tire mounting method though the rim has residual glue and, using old tires for the spare, the tire would also have old glue on it. Still we would remount the tire with "proper" glue when we got home.

Some older rims were made with a shallower bed (made for a wider tire) then are common today. A narrow tire will not sit well on these rims and might suffer more of the "shttck" sounds of the casing being pressed against still tacky glue then pulling back with each revolution. Heavy applications of glue reduce this but a better match between the rim and tire is a far better solution. Unfortunately sew ups in 24 to 28mm widths are not common, or inexpensive, these days.

Sew ups will grow a small bit in width with inflation. Maybe only a couple of mm. Much more might suggest the construction is not too good or the casing and threading are slowly failing. The tire should remain at it's inflated size for a long time with only minimal growth as the casing ages. Keeping the tire inflated for a long period won't make too much of a size difference but will wear the casing prematurely.

Vittoria has made a couple of tires in a 23 or 24mm width. As I like a magic carpet ride I like to use these wider tires. I'm only 145lbs so I can run 100psi, have great cornering traction and enjoy the smooth ride.


----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:19 AM
Subject: [CR] Tubular tyre diameter


Hi,

I am currently running old style Continental Giro 22mm dia tyres on Fiamme rims with the tub being help in place using only Velox double sided sticky tape. Though currently this arrangement appears to be functioning just fine I have noticed that a slight separation is taking place between the tub and tape close to the edge of the rim. In the fullness of time this "sticky" separation is bound to become permanent since any exposed sticky tape will become contaminated with road dirt and vegetative debris.

Just how sensitive is a tubular rim to tubular tyre nominal diameter.

Should I be using a larger nominal diameter tyre to help reduce the possibility of gaps opening up in the first place or should I pump the tubular up to maximum pressure whilst in winter storage to effectively increase its diameter and maybe also thereby help reduce the propensity for edge tape / rim separation ?

How long does it take for a tubular tyre to stretch and settle to it's effective working diameter.

Regards

Ken Hume

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Andrew R Stewart
Rochester, NY