[CR] Fw: Re: FOR SALE = Original condition 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15 = 23" frame size

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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:39:12 -0800
From: "Kevin Kruger" <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR] Fw: Re: FOR SALE = Original condition 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15 = 23" frame size



--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Kevin Kruger wrote:


From: Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE = Original condition 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15 = 23" frame size To: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:37 AM

Jerry, SunTour barcons are what was provided by the original owner as original equipment.  You see these on Paramounts with both SunTour and Schwinn-Approved stampings.  The left Campy barcon typically struggles with a triple crank set-up (i.e., often difficult to get enough lever to shift onto large ring), so that' why the switch from Campy to SunTour from what I recall hearing when I worked at the Schwinn Mega-Store in the early-mid 70s. Decals are 100% original and accurate for the 73 model year, even though the official catalog shows different seattube decals (can't rely on catalogs for accuracy in any brand). Extra-drilled hubs have correct date locknuts for this bike.  This is the earliest extra-hub-hole Paramount that I ever recall seeing. Kevin

--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE = Original condition 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15 = 23" frame size To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, wtgrantham@comcast.net, "Kevin Kruger" <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:27 AM

Nice bike, with the cool double-drilled Schwinn Campy hubs.  I note this has the World Championship bands rather than the full seat panel decal, like my 1973 Paramount, which adds to my confidence that mine has the correct decals.  It also appears that this bike, like my 1973, shows slightly longer caps on the seatstays than Paramounts earlier in the 70's.  Are the Suntour barends original?  If so, Schwinn had switched from the Campy barends that were an option in 1970, 1971 and perhaps 1972.  The odd thing about my 1970 P-15 is it came with Campy DT shifters and the 1970 catalog noted that the wide range gearing would not allow use of barend or stem shifters.  So the Campy barends were an option on the P-13, but not the P-15 in 1970.  That statement in the catalog sounded like BS to me, so I installed the Campy barends anyway, and they work fine, or at least as fine as anything can work with the original Campy Gran Turismo RD.  The switch to the Schwinn badged Shimano Crane GS as shown here was a huge improvement.  I note here, as well as on my own 1970 P-15 that, as someone noted in a related thread, the factory Campy triple cranks had shorter flutes, so that the holes for the inner ring were not in the flutes.  On double cranks modified for an inner ring, the holes will be within the longer flutes on the double arms.  So its easy to identify a retrofit, even when the modified crank used the same inner BCD as the factory triple.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Kevin Kruger wrote:


> From: Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] FOR SALE = Original condition 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15 = 23" frame size
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, wtgrantham@comcast.net
> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 9:26 AM
> Posting this once again, since
> interested list members
   could not view photos on the Wool
> Jersey site.  Now loaded photos of bike to FLICKER site.
>
> Offered for sale to CR list members, my 1973 Schwinn
> Paramount P-15.  It's all original  (yes, that's original
> paint and decals!!!), 23" frame size, serial #G7312, and the
> price is
> $1500.00 plus shipping (limited to USA only).  Photos can
> be viewed at the following FLICKER address:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40402003@N05/sets/72157622600971957/
>
> I have reinstalled the original Weinmann "Schwinn-Approved"
> centerpull brakes and Shimano Schwinn approved "Le Tour
> GT300" rear derailleur and SunTour barcon shifters (the
> original owner installed Campagnolo
> sidepull brakes, Rally rear derailleur, and Campy barscons
> but
   retained all of the now installed original
> components).  Wheels were relaced with DT spokes as I was
> never a fan of
> Union galvanized spokes that were original equipment.  I
> also  have the
> original Cinelli #64 bars if you prefer them over the #66
> bars that I
> installed.  ESGE fenders are also not original but will be
> included.
>
> I have only put about 100 miles on this bike since
>  the photos were taken and originally posted on Wool
> Jersey, so the bike is in the exact same condition today as
> it was then.  In my very picky opinion, this bike is in
> FANTASTIC original condition!!!  Truly not as easy one to
> part with, but since I rarely ride it, hope to find someone
> who equally appreciates it, and most important, will ride
> it.
>
> Please contact me offlist if you are interested or
   have any
> questions - sorry, but the price is firm.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA