Re: [CR] George's photos of three lady's bikes

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From: "Jon Spangler" <jonswriter@att.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:57:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: [CR] George's photos of three lady's bikes


Harvey,

I solved that cable-routing problem on our UO-18 mixtes by mounting my Weinmann 999 CPs (needed to reach the new and OT Mavic alloy 700C rims that replaced the steel Rigida 27" ones) on the brake bridge that Peugeot thoughtfully provided (pre-drilled, no less) on all its mixtes (at least AFAIK).

The cable housing runs straight down between the twin laterals to the longish yoke that encompasses the seat tube. Piece of cake, and far "superior" (ahem) to both the US-built Paramount and the Italian Cinelli. Just like my favorite of George's three women's bikes, the Bob Jackson...

Jon Spangler still drooling over George's BJ in Alameda, CA USA

On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Harvey Sachs wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:59:46 -0500
> From: Harvey Sachs <hmsachs@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] photos of three lady's bikes
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> Nice pix, nice bikes. But sure is hard to get a rational run for a
> rear
> brake, eh? What I found worked best on bikes with intermediate
> stays is
> different from any of these: Use vertical drops, and mount a
> centerpull
> to a bridge on the intermediate stays. Bottom looks nicer, and
> allows a
> very straight brake cable run, with a long straddle cable going in
> front
> of the seat tube. Of course, on a single the rear brake shouldn't do
> much, but it made a difference on triplets and tandems. Ah!
> Cantilevers
> in that location become excellent ankle-scrapers, so bad idea.
> Centerpulls are narrower, typically not significantly wider than the
> stays. BTW, in my experience the right intermediate stay was a bit
> tricky to assure that it cleared the chain. Or am I remembering
> incorrectly. Of the three, I like the JT best, but the Cinelli has
> real
> charm. Overkill?
>
> harvey sachs
> mcLean VA
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>> Geo. Allen wrote:
>> OK, this is my first attempt at posting photos to Flickr so please
>> help
>> me if I screwed up. I posted the three lady's bike that I discussed
>> last
>> week: a Cinelli, a Paramount and a Taylor. I named the set "Mixtes"
>> though the bikes probably aren't as none have the twin lateral tubes
>> running from the head tube to the drop-outs. I also decided to use a
>> stone wall as my background to distinguish my bikes from Kevin
>> Kruger's.
>> He uses a brick wall. Brick Wall = Kevin's bikes. Stone wall =
>> George's
>> bikes. Now that I know just enough to be dangerous I plan on posting
>> something new on a regular basis. My favorite photo is the one
>> showing
>> the middle of the Taylor where the sloping top tube transitions to
>> two
>> stays at the seat tube, all nicely fillet-brazed.
>>
>> Try this link:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/2manybikes/sets/72157622718284208/
>>
>> George Allen
>> Lexington, Ky
>> USA