Listmembers; Thank You for all the responses to my touring questions. Pictures were very good also. With the responses I will add a third frame to my build schedule this winter and next summer. I realized my twenty dollar find at Goodwill of a 83 Fuji touring series four in mint condition is very valuable. The Schwinn Super Sport 83 at the paint shop is also a very good bike too. There is one frame made for touring that I have yet to get and will get many different parts to update, more to come on that. Some of the responses assured me I am right on finding this frame. One was available at my local bike shop but since the guys new I wanted it they were going to gouge me, this upset me since I spend a lot of money there, greed has no boundaries. I have one frame that is very crude but has very good geometry and good kahrma still wondering about that one but it could be a good back up.
There are to very top of the line frame builders right here in the Twin Cities, your replies proved that in all your specs and it is nice to know that if you use these people you will only need one bike.
It was very nice to spend a Sunday mourning sharing all of your bikes and stories.
St. Paul, MN