Re: [CR] The Elswick-Hopper Convincable was L'Integral

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:36:14 -0500
From: "jim ammirato" <jammirato64@gmail.com>
To: Edward Albert <ealbert01@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Stonich <mark@bikesmithdesign.com>, hsachs@alumni.rice, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] The Elswick-Hopper Convincable was L'Integral


Eddie -

I love that bike ! Why is this model Convincible called the "Vampire" ?

Jim Ammirato W.Newton,MA

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Edward Albert <ealbert01@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are some pics of an Elswick Hopper Convincible I found in a local
> attic.
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Edward+Albert/Elswick+Hopper+Vampire+Convincible/
>
> >From Conversations with Peter Brown, whose bike is up on the Classic
> lightweight site, his is a prototype while mine seems to have been actually
> in production (decal sheets still in existence show 60 sets missing). It
> is, however, the only complete and original Convincible in existence to
> date.
>
> Edward Albert
> Chappaqua, New York, U.S.A.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Mark Stonich <mark@bikesmithdesign.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Harvey,
> > If you like far out bikes like the L'Integral, the Elswick-Hopper
> > Convincable may also interest you.
> > http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/elswickhopper.html
> > Not quite as many inventive details but still pretty neat.
> >
> > At 11/14/2009 09:17 PM -0500, Harvey Sachs wrote:
> >
> >> Although I do like Funk, "L'Integral" isn't funk, but a single example
> of
> >> some really neat ideas - and some that have not proved in - and is well
> >> worth spending a few minutes looking at some really neat pix.
> >>
> >> --> Of course, the original reference was to the double-down tube,
> >> doubled-seat-tube "ladder" construction, with the chainrings inboard.
> Neat.
> >> --> And that pair of really radical elliptical chainrings! Woolly
> indeed!
> >> --> Now, look at the BB. That's not an eccentric. Note the hinge just
> >> forward and under the downtube. To figure this out, look at the pix of
> the
> >> hubs and fork ends. They have the bearings attached to the forks, so
> the
> >> axles rotate on a rigid hub. Look how easy it is to drop out a wheel
> >> (sprung cam-over QRs for the wheels), and how you don't have any size
> >> constraints on the bearings (unlike the right side of regular rear
> hubs)! I
> >> sketched this kind of assembly decades ago, and I'm tickled to see how
> >> nicely it's been executed here.
> >>
> >> Besides, the lugless work and pin striping are tres cool.
> >>
> >> This is one wild, original, and carefully thought-out bike, and I wish I
> >> could afford one.
> >>
> >> harvey sachs
> >> mcLean va.
> >>
> >> Hilary Stone found great pix:
> >>
> >> There's an L'Integral here...
> >>
> >> http://www.reneherse.com/bachelier.html
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