Re: [CR] CR] Water Based Paint Question

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:55:41 -0800
From: "Rich Pinder" <rpinder@usc.edu>
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I missed the first post in this thread.... but I have heard Water based (acryllic enamels) paints have been used in the European automotive market for years - but I can't verify that for sure.

For a garage tinkerPainter like me, I'm comfortable using the AutoAirColors products: http://www.autoaircolors.com/ I use an 3M automotive type breather whenever i spray anything. But not having the harsh smelling fumes from catalyzed conventional enamels lingering in the air keeps me in good stead with the wife and neighbors.

My latest testing is with a catalyzed acryllic clear coat - we'll see how it lasts.

With acrylic spray, material build up is not an issue - it goes on so thin

Rich Pinder Sherman Oaks, CA

Greg Thies wrote:
> Water based automotive paints have been around for many years. Due to
> federal EPA regulations under the Clean Air Act and separate state standards
> (i.e. California) activities like painting, which release so-called volatile
> organic compounds that deplete the earth's protective ozone layer have had
> to switch to alternative products. In an effort to reduce these emissions,
> paint manufacturers have been required to produce products like water-based
> paint. The same thing has happened in house paints with oil based paints
> almost nonexistent now. Twenty years ago, the chemical technology wasn't
> nearly what it is today so the water-based, catalyzed paint systems offered
> now are excellent. However, there are newer, petroleum-based solvents that
> are capable of meeting the low or no VOC standards (maybe not in CA). Ford
> Motor Company is beginning to use some of these newer petroleum-based paints
> on their 2010 vehicles. I suspect the petro-based paints still hold an edge
> over the water-based ones. The other factor concerning paints is human
> toxicity, and some of the old, petroleum based paints were highly toxic to
> workers. My 1976 Eisentraut was painted with Imron (one of the most toxic
> paints) and that paint is still as good as the day it left the paint line.
>
> Greg Thies
> Vienna, Virginia
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> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:34:20 -0600
> From: "Strickler, George M" <gstrickler@tulane.edu>
> Subject: [CR] Water Based Paint Question
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> In a recent posting on the restoration issue, Mr. Baylis said that "water
> based color paint is right around the corner here in Cal." or something like
> that. What does that mean? Are oil based paints to be outlawed like DDT?
> How will water based paint differ from paints currently used to refinish
> bikes/cars like Imron? Should I send off my bikes en mass for repaints now?
>
> Nervously
> George Strickler
> New Orleans
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