Re: [CR] Flying gate

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PX-10LE)

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:44:25 -0800
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>
To: <>, <>, kevin sayles <>
In-Reply-To: <FEA7E5E7A036433BAF9117C93A4051CA@kevinPC>
Subject: Re: [CR] Flying gate

Pity they won't ship outside UK (except for Ireland). Can any UK members help US CR buyers with this?


Jerry Moos

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, kevin sayles wrote:

> From: kevin sayles <>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Flying gate

\r?\n> To:,

\r?\n> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:53 PM

\r?\n> Hi John, and listers,


\r?\n> You might want to look at this 'flying gate' we [St John

\r?\n> Street cycles] have on eBay

\r?\n> # 350278214650


\r?\n> Its a Trevor Jarvis built 'Baines gate' frame, with modern

\r?\n> stuff to make up as a fixed wheel bike.


\r?\n> cheers

\r?\n> Kevin Sayles

\r?\n> Bridgwater Somerset UK


\r?\n> ----- Original Message ----- From: <>

\r?\n> To: <>

\r?\n> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:02 PM

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Flying gate



\r?\n> > Item#300364710017 Baines Flying gate. Looking at the

\r?\n> photo and having NEVER ridden one. What was gained by the

\r?\n> design? the fork rake on this older one would negate I would

\r?\n> think any advantage of the frame design.The point of the

\r?\n> saddle must be way behind the bottom bracket.with the long

\r?\n> top tube and sitting so far back.steering the bloody thing

\r?\n> must have been a chore. OR am I wrong as usual? lets hear

\r?\n> from you CR members who have one, Maybe Dave Moulton could

\r?\n> comment on this, I understand the reason for the design was

\r?\n> to shorten the wheelbase? would this be an advantage in

\r?\n> climbing? Cheers John Crump OldandstretchedoutenoughBrit,

\r?\n> Parker. Co USA