Jim,
I have that same exact frame / bicycle. I bought mine from list member Steven Maasland, who if I recall (and I could be wrong) got it from J.P. I believe it's an early 60's, so your assessment of the date is accurate. Mine was completely original and in a sad state. I very carefully and painstakingly refurbished it using all that parts that were on the bike. I can send you photos if you like of the bike and components so you know how it looks in it's original configuration. It's a pretty cool bike with mojo up the yin yang. Even rides pretty well, if you like reeeeally narrow handlebars.
Jay Sexton Sebastopol, CA
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:29:51 -0700 From: John <jtperry330@me.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Frejus To: jim abt <jamesabt@charter.net> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <226BB512-753B-4314-A67F-494ADFF73793@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Jim, She is not rare; you'll need allot of numbers if your gonna start counting. Tour model was second in line to the Professional model ( which is not really "rare" either). Figure she dates just post 1950 from the seat sticker. The headtube badges had the years listed winning the worlds; at least on the pro models. Non campy rear dropouts are the giveaway to hierarchy. Cool, sell or build and enjoy. Funny, I've only scene the Tour models in this bronze/maroon "Team" color combo, but NEVER a pro model. The list meister has a Frejus city bike in this color combo that I sold him. Look for her on the site. Now if ya find a pro in team colors, well that's a story!
John Pergolizzi San Diego, Ca Soon to live in TORINO!
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:39 PM, jim abt wrote:
> > I had the person that sold me this bike tell me that this was a 1955
> > Frejus. The identicifications signs on the bike (sine you can not
> > track the serial number effecitvely that I know of....says that bike
> > is a 1962 or 1963). There are stamps on the Campy hub lock nuts that
> > describe the year of the hubs (I think) and there is a stamp on the
> > steer tube of the fork with the initials TDF 62. Can you guys tell
> > me if I am tracking the year properly? That way I will not have to
> > rely on the sellers word.
> >
> > The other thing is I am attaching is a photo link (item #
> > 140360537831 on Ebay) so that members can look to see if they have a
> > frame like it or have seen anyone with one. I am trying to count how
> > many there are and how rare it is. I feel that it may be. I guess
> > what I am trying to do is authenticate my ad for selling the
> > thing.....thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Abt
> > Wausau, Wi. USA