CR list, i'm suprised about this bebate, i sold vintage items, and no in my mind to send an other message than passion for vintage bicycle. Sauvage Lejeune won tour de France in 1968 with Jan Jansen and i don't think it was symbolique day for racisme. I can understand, today, this logo can be hurt people's, but as i reply at don, if Lejeune brother's was racist they don't put French flag underpant at the "papoo" it will be indescent for racist. and they are not a second message on logo. BTW if CR list think is indescent, and is a bad image for our favorite sport, to sell this frame i immidiatly close the auction. Regards jaouen BAZIN Wissous, France
-----Message d'origine----- De : Jon M. Crate [mailto:Jon.Crate@FAI.US] Envoye : vendredi 20 novembre 2009 01:33 A : 'jaouen BAZIN'; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Objet : RE: [CR] Racist (not Racing) Bikes
Jaouen, I was convinced when I saw it last week that regardless of the history behind the bike, the fear of a racist appearance would prevent it from selling for a good price.
Likewise, I anticipated that some racist might snap it up!
If you can't find anyone to buy it, I'll pay a nominal amount for it and cover the cost shipping it here and I'll strip it, repaint it and ride it!
Jon Crate Marietta in the Old South Georgia
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of jaouen BAZIN Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:58 PM To: donald gillies; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Racist (not Racing) Bikes
Hello Don, for the story, Lejeune brother come back to africa (wich year i don't known probably 50's) and fall in love about africa country. They decide about they're trip to call the race frame Sauvage-Lejeune, "sauvage" is french word for "wild". This frame date probably 1960, 50years before the "cliche" from africa was "papou", i think it's not racist but supide "cliche" from 50 years old Regards Jaouen BAZIN Wissous, France
(actualy i'm the seller of the frame and if i think is racist i do not sold this bike)