Re: [CR] Triples and rod FD and two-wire RD's

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:39:33 -0800
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Peter Brueggeman <4peebee@peterbrueggeman.com>
In-Reply-To: <D486897AA70B4D1FB0C5CF43A93B0C78@PC11364>
Subject: Re: [CR] Triples and rod FD and two-wire RD's


Yes, thanks. I did mean a two-wire RD. So how did it work? Did the cables move the RD both in and out, rather than having a return spring opposing the cable pull?

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Peter Brueggeman <4peebee@peterbrueggeman.com> wrote:


> From: Peter Brueggeman <4peebee@peterbrueggeman.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Triples and rod FD and two-wire RD's

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 1:31 PM

\r?\n> Jerry Moos asks "...How common were

\r?\n> trple chainrings in the 50's and earlier, and how well did

\r?\n> the typical rod FD's of the day handle a triple? ... What

\r?\n> rod type FD's were used with triples in the 50's and

\r?\n> earlier?  ... Anyone have good photos or explanation of

\r?\n> how to fit a Cyclo two-wire FD?..."

\r?\n>

\r?\n> To add to Jan Heine's comments, here's some catalogue

\r?\n> input.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Various Simplex catalogues from 1948 through the 1950s

\r?\n> state the Simplex lever front derailleurs of various types

\r?\n> are for double chainwheels, and there are no triple

\r?\n> chainwheel cranksets listed in the catalogues.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Various 1950s Cyclo Benelux catalogues lists only double

\r?\n> chainwheel sets, and state the Benelux lever front

\r?\n> derailleur is for double chainwheels.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The 1952 Brown Brothers catalogue lists no triple

\r?\n> chainwheel sets, and says the Huret lever front derailleur

\r?\n> is for double chainwheels. I don't have a Huret catalogue to

\r?\n> determine what Huret themselves say about their lever front

\r?\n> derailleur.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> A 1956 Simplex catalogue shows a cable-operated Juy-56

\r?\n> front derailleur and says it "...will operate with a triple

\r?\n> chainwheel and as such is the only gear made today with such

\r?\n> a feature." This catalogue does not list a triple chainwheel

\r?\n> set, only doubles.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> If Jerry meant a two wire Cycle RD and not FD, here's

\r?\n> instructions:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://www.peterbrueggeman.com/cr/catalogues/cyclo_gears_manual.pdf

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Peter Brueggeman

\r?\n> La Jolla California USA

\r?\n> 4peebee(at)peterbrueggeman.com