Hello I have a frankinbike that i bought today? a couple of starter questions? wrap around seat lug( raleigh or paramount?) nervexlugs .mixture of parts ? non nervex crown on fork? seventees rake on fork. oil port for the bottom bracket on top( paramount or raleigh?).braze on tabs for rack.the guy said it was a paramount,but it has cable gudie braze ons and top brake cable braze ons?i can send a picture,just need help the rear derailleur says pat 74 (campagnolo).Sugino campy lookalike crank,universal cx brakes zeus levers.wonderful DURA ACE FIRST GEN,WITH OIL PORT/ sheriff star looking hubs.mavic rims,bad repaint and decals? serial number on the bottom 1666 and none on the left rear stayu(paramount?)help Brad
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Hello Listmembers
Cinelli has a new home,thanks to all who replied,sincere apologies to those whom
could not respond to,but I will be posting another frame not a Cinelli though
hen I return next weekend from work
heers
ohn Murray
ueensland
ustralia
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ood Morning all.
This last week I set my late 1980s Schwinn Voyageur to the wielder to be epaired. As he will have to remove some paint to order to do his work the rame will have to be repainted.
What I need is stickers from the 1980s in either tan or light brown, and some hat read "voyageur". This list seems a good place to start.
Also, I will need one sticker that says "Columbus" for the down tube.
I would like to add that I have followed the thread on the list about epainting, and after much thought I have decided that I will take Brian's dvise, and just ride the darned thing.
Have a Thanksgiving Holiday.
Tom Harriman. San Francisco, Ca.
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At 8:42 AM -0800 11/22/09, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>What rod type FD's were used with triples in the 50's and earlier?
Triples were very much the realm of high-end cyclotouring bikes in
hose days. Most of these used custom-made front derailleurs, as you
an see in our book 'The Golden Age of Handbuilt Bicycles.' However,
here is a 1950s Balleuil with a triple and a Huret rod-operated
ront derailleur. I haven't ridden the bike, so I don't know how it
hifts. Since those derailleurs are relatively common, it might be
orth a try.
The late 1940s Mayeux also has a (cable-operated) front derailleur
ith a triple crankset. I am not sure who made that one, but it looks
ike a factory-made item with a big return spring. Perhaps Spirax?
'd have to look through my old magazines...
>But I believe many constructer bikes used a two-wire Cyclo. When
did Cyclo change to a single-wire chainstay RD, or did they make
both simultaneously?
Both were made simultaneously. The two-wire was the high-end model.
Jan Heine
ditor
icycle Quarterly
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eattle WA 98121
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Jerry Moos asks "...How common were trple chainrings in the 50's and
arlier, and how well did the typical rod FD's of the day handle a triple?
.. What rod type FD's were used with triples in the 50's and earlier? ...
nyone have good photos or explanation of how to fit a Cyclo two-wire
D?..."
To add to Jan Heine's comments, here's some catalogue input.
Various Simplex catalogues from 1948 through the 1950s state the Simplex
ever front derailleurs of various types are for double chainwheels, and
here are no triple chainwheel cranksets listed in the catalogues.
Various 1950s Cyclo Benelux catalogues lists only double chainwheel sets,
nd state the Benelux lever front derailleur is for double chainwheels.
The 1952 Brown Brothers catalogue lists no triple chainwheel sets, and says
he Huret lever front derailleur is for double chainwheels. I don't have a
uret catalogue to determine what Huret themselves say about their lever
ront derailleur.
A 1956 Simplex catalogue shows a cable-operated Juy-56 front derailleur and
ays it "...will operate with a triple chainwheel and as such is the only
ear made today with such a feature." This catalogue does not list a triple
hainwheel set, only doubles.
If Jerry meant a two wire Cycle RD and not FD, here's instructions:
http://www.peterbrueggeman.com/
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