Re: [CR] early raleigh professional

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From: "Arno Volkers" <>
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:20:11 +0000
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Subject: Re: [CR] early raleigh professional

Thanks for your feedback larry,

I took all the parts from the frame, it's a pretty light frame and fork, i was a littlebe bit suprised by it. The paint is metallic white with metallical red and brown/ orange accents. the black is just black.

When i have a look at the brazed on cable guide on the back, i see that it's not hollow, but a flat rounded piece of metal. the chainstay is tapered and looks unusual, i've never seen this before is it normal for the professionals?

here is the tapered photo:


> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:53:53 -0500
> To:
> From:
> Subject: Re: [CR] early raleigh professional
> At 02:48 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
> >Hello everybody,
> >
> >I want to continue the raleigh professional discussion because the
> >bike arrived
> >at my house today.
> >
> >Okay the first mystery is the serial number, it begins with an C?
> >the complete numer is: C4619 and the other stamps says: 948
> >early examples start with a D or E, hmmm.
> A "C" serial could make sense if it was manufactured prior to the
> regular production frames.
> >The dropouts are from zeus with eyelets on the front and back on the frame,
> >i also read that the early models had no eyelets on the front fork, this is
> I have pics of D and E serial white Pro frames with eyelets on front and rear.
> I have also seen frames with Zeus dropouts or Campy dropouts.
> >becomings strange, many things look the same as on the 1969 model but there
> >are some little differences. Also the logo on the front is like the
> >original logo,
> >not the older oval one, but on the seatpost it's oval?
> "Creative" application of graphics. Whatever was in stock, in reach,
> .....close enough for Raleigh.
> >the word striping decals are also newer, but underneath it you can
> >see the original
> >and smaller striping.
> >
> >most parts are original, excempt from the 1980 campagnolo record
> >hubs and the 1975
> >rear derailleur.
> >
> >other time correct parts are an early Campagnolo 175 strada without
> >date, campagnolo
> >front derailleur, Way-Assauto headset and pedals, cinelli handlebar,
> >campagnolo cable clamps and
> >guides, campagnolo shifters with clamps.
> >
> >Is this an early Commemorative Raleigh bike or is it a nice copy?
> >
> >thanks for the earlier discussion,
> >
> >here's the link to the pictures:
> >
> >
> >
> >Arno Volkers
> >Van 't Hoffstraat 9a
> >4834 XD Breda
> >The Netherlands
> Sorry, no clue on the other details. I've come to expect nothing less
> than weirdness from Raleigh.
> Thanks for the link to additional pics.
> Larry Osborn
> Bruceton Mills, West Virginia - USA