Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)


Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor

From: "brianbaylis@juno.com" <brianbaylis@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:02:25 +0000
To: <freitas1@pacbell.net>
Cc: jswan@optonline.net, oroboyz@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)


Bob,

Upon rare ocassions I do build a frame that has Italian BB threads; so does Peter Johnson. I still have a fondness for the Cinelli style sand cast BB shell. I use them on special projects; for example I used one on the track frame with the one piece headtube that is shown on the CR site in the Baylis catagory. It has been heavily modified; but that's one of the things those shells are very good for. I still have quite a few of them but save them for certain situations.

I will be bringing that purple track frame to the Cirque for display; and it has just come up for sale. It's 53cm c-t.

Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA
USA


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bob Freitas
To: James Swan
Cc: oroboyz@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well make that lack of skills with vintage stuff in general)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:09:57 -0700


Could we hazard to guess more Italian and French taps now belong to non Bike shops? I have oberved many of the Campy kits on Ebay are Italian/French . Jamie any KOF guys using French or Italian? Heres another Tack, Go to your local Car dealer and see if they have any specialty tools for a 15-20 year old car

BOB FREITAS MILL VALLEY, CA USA

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> On May 22, 2009, at 7:48 PM, oroboyz@aol.com <mailto:oroboyz@aol.com>
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>> << Today in Marin (a Probike hotbed) maybe only 1 shop could
>> rethread an Italian BB, he could do it in 30 minutes or so but it
>> would take him 2 weeks to find where he put the tools >>
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>> It's a shame they don't have good shops out there in California like
>> we have in North Carolina Ha ha!
>> (Acxtually I wonder how many here have Italian taps, etc. Not many I
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>> 1410 Mill Street
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>> Greensboro, NC USA
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Freitas <freitas1@pacbell.net <mailto:freitas1@pacbell.net>>
>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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>> Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 7:15 pm
>> Subject: [CR] Lack of proper tooling at local bike shops (may as well
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>> I am thinking all that Italian and French frame
>> tooling was sold off as bikes went to a world wide standard. Many of us
>> have bought up some of that stuff and are now the beneficiaries.
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>> Even in the day most shops lacked the BB taps
>> ,reamers and head tube tools. The average shop would try to straighten
>> your fork and failing that usually used a replacement fork with was
>> threaded for a wide range of sizes. Then the operation was simply cut to
>> size.
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>> Today in Marin (a Probike hotbed) maybe only 1 shop
>> could rethread an Italian BB, he could do20it in 30 minutes or so but it
>> would take him 2 weeks to find where he put the tools
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>> BOB FREITAS
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>> waiting until Tuesday for my fame to spread in MILL VALLEY ,CA USA