Re: [CR] Pantography


Example: History:Norris Lockley

From: aldoross4 <aldoross4@siscom.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Cc:
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:33:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR] Pantography


Just in case anyone else was unfamiliar with the word "adventitious"...

(from Merriam-Webster) Main Entry: ad·ven·ti·tious 1 : coming from another source and not inherent or innate <a Federal house without adventitious later additions> 2 : arising or occurring sporadically or in other than the usual location <adventitious roots>

Aldo Ross Middletown, Ohio, USA

----- Original Message Follows -----
From: <gholl@optonline.net>
To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>
Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR] Pantography
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:45 +0000


> With some exceptions, e.g. Somec and a few others,

> engraving ("pantography") was subcontracted by the Italian

> vintage bike makers. Notwithstanding, certain standards

> were maintained and, when confronted with an unusual

> engraving it's prudent to question whether it's period or

> not. Reference to known period catalogues or period images

> of the engraving in question will, in most cases, provide

> the answer. That having been said, with the aid of modern

> scanning devices and computerized engraving machines

> almost any engraving can be copied-an image of the

> original is all that's needed, and the engraving can be

> reproduced in a fashion which will defy detection by

> ordinary techniques. The interest in engraving

> ("pantography") in vintage cycling circles is sometimes

> extreme, and , in for some collectors, is an object in

> itself. This is amusing in a way since all engraving is

> adventitious and extraneous to the bike. George

> George Hollenberg MD

> CT, USA

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: ternst

> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:49 am

> Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay outing, mine: Masi chainring, 1st

> gen SR rear mech, '75 Gazelle and more To: Freek Faro ,

> classic Cc: faro@cistron.nl

>

> > Weren't many of these types of jobs as in many other

> > industries given out to

> > various small home/cottage/job shops?

> > That would account for the minor differences extant in

> > the finished

> > products.

> > All the same but subtly varied.

> > Ted Ernst

> > Palos Verdes Estates

> > CA USA

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Freek Faro"

> > To: "classic"

> > Cc:

> > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:57 AM

> > Subject: [CR] Ebay outing, mine: Masi chainring, 1st gen

> > SR rear mech,'75

> > Gazelle and more

> >

> >

> > > Good day all,

> > >

> > > I'm active on Ebay again, auctions will end next

> > Sunday. 6 items are

> > > on-topic.

> > >

> > >

> > > - 1975 Gazelle AA-frame, vanilla gold metallic, 58 c-t

> > ; quite nice, a

> > > lot

> > > of parts are included

> > > - mid 70s Masi pantographed chainring (53 teeth);

> > milled, cut and

> > > pantographed ... and as an expert told me, quite rare

> > in this particular

> > > form

> > > - milled clamp-on Campagnolo gearlevers; added a

> > Campagnolo clamp-on bb

> > > cable guide, for good measure

> > > - mid 70s Cinelli 64 handlebar and old logo stem; nice

> > > condition - mid 70s Cinelli 65 handlebar and old logo

> > stem; double knight crests,

> > > choice of stem lengths

> > >

> > > This is the link:

> > >

> > >

> >

>
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/faustobeer_W0QQ_dmdZ1QQ_in_kwZ1QQ_ipgZ50Q>

> > > Item number for the Gazelle frame is 220422485167, my

> > sellers name is

> > > faustobeer.

> > >

> > > The better pcitures are here:

> > >

> > > http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Freeks-

> > racefietsen/Ebay+may+2009+1/>

> > > Questions are always welcome, thanks for looking and

> > enjoy bidding! >

> > > Freek Faro

> > > Rotterdam Netherlands