Re: [CR] 1974/76 Bianchi with rare engravings

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From: "Arno Volkers" <arnovolkers@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:35:45 +0000
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Subject: Re: [CR] 1974/76 Bianchi with rare engravings


Thanks for all the information guys

it's amazing that you know al this information, the frame is from 1976 or earlier i think because it came with the 76 campagnolo super group.

greets

Arno
> From: otis@otisrecords.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:50:03 -0700
> Subject: [CR] 1974/76 Bianchi with rare engravings
>
> I would agree with Nels' comments. It looks like a mid-late 70's
> Specialissima frame. I have an identical frame I'm pretty sure is a '77 as
> it still has the "Barcelona" model designation number decal on the
> head-tube.
>
> The seat-collar on my bike is stamped with a "1.7". As Nel's, I'm not
> positive if these stampings are accurate dating indicaters but I have seen
> enough of them now that appear to be accurate that I'm starting to think
> they are.
>
> Maybe Bob F. can confirm, but I think the '73-'75 frames had a different
> seat-stay top with "Bianchi" in raised letters instead of the "B" in the
> circle. Then it seems like lots of details were changed for 1980 (maybe
> '79). So I think '76-'78 would be a safe assumption for yours.
>
> Anyway, it's a great frame. They are light, my 55cm is sub 5.5 lbs. for the
> frame and fork. And they ride as nice as any of the 70's Italian bikes I've
> had. Build it up with Super Record and enjoy it.
>
> Jon Williams
> Grants Pass OR USA
>
>
>
> From: Emilio Bozzie <emiliobozzi@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] 1974/76 Bianchi with rare engravings
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> Arno-
>
> The "engravings" on the frame look fairly standard for that year vintage
> based upon what I have seen, so not really rare. Actually I believe they are
> part of the lug casting. The threaded water bottle mounting braze-ons are
> also consistent with mid-70s Bianchi. Bob Freitas can confirm or diverge on
> this since he knows a lot about early-mid 70 Bianchi.
>
>
>
> The lack of a lot a chrome is consistent with that mid 70s vintage as well.
> While I have no way of knowing, I heard a speculation that due to the
> early-mid 70 world wide energy crisis, chroming was seen as luxury by
> Bianchi and hence no sexy chromed lugs as seen in the 60s, until they were
> brought back in 1980. Whatever the real rational, the fact remains that
> chromed Bianchi from the mid-70s are usually one off buggers.
>
>
>
> I have no way of knowing whether this is a 75 or 76, but it defiantly is a
> higher end bike, most likely a Superleggera. The seat lug is stamped 9.6
> which some folks feel translates into Sept 1976. I have no independent
> confirmation that this is an accurate interpretation. Also I have no
> detailed understanding of major differences between how a 75 SR grouppo
> looks better as compared to a 76 grouppo, so if you indicate that they have
> been switched out, I would be hard pressed to chime in with an accurate
> agreement/disagreement.
>
>
>
> Since you indicate that original parts may have been changed out, that may
> suggest why the non original "Hatta" headset, Brooks saddle and Cinelli bars
> are present. Stock for that vintage would have been 3TTT saddle/stem/bars.
> With that said, I have also seen pro bikes from that era with Cinelli
> saddles/bars/stem which may have been "stock" on team bikes. Lastly, you may
> want to keep in mind that Bianchi often made slight differences in their
> bikes depending on destination market (ie, unusual differences between
> German, Italian, Spanish, British, Japanese and even Canadian when compared
> to bikes found in the States).
>
> Best Regards-
> Nels Cone
> Seattle WA
>
> > From: arnovolkers@hotmail.com
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:11:48 +0000
> > Subject: [CR] 1974/76 Bianchi with rare engravings
> >
> >
> > Dear people,
> >
> > i found this Bianchi in Gent (Belgium) it was equipped
> > with superrecord from 76, now it's equipped with 75
> > superrecord because it was looking better.
> >
> > The question is?
> >
> > Has anybody seen these engravings? well actually it are
> > no egravings but it's welded on the fork and bridge.
> >
> > If you recognize it, tell me what the type and year is please
> >
> > thanks everybody
> >
> > Arno Volkers
> > Van 't Hoffstraat 9a
> > Breda - The Netherlands