Re: [CR] Recently ended Medici & Herse


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From: "Hansen, Thomas" <TH@HJTH.COM>
To: 'Michael Howard' <95rivieramike@gmail.com>, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:44:19 -0700
Thread-Topic: [CR] Recently ended Medici & Herse
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Subject: Re: [CR] Recently ended Medici & Herse


Hey Guys, I am the nudnik who bought the Herse on Ebay and I will share with you what I find out when it arrives. I have a beautiful 67 RH with all of the appropriate goodies so I did take a good look at the rather unusual lug work. It also looked to me from the not so great pictures that there was only a left side shift lever. Whether this means that this bike was originally a 5 speed or may have had a rod activated front derailleur who knows. It also appears to have a mismatched set of wheels, but I have piles of parts to remedy that. My thought was to do exactly as Dale suggested and rechrome the racks and gently clean and polish the rest and turn it into a five speed city bike. I'm sure everybody will want a good look at it then. I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out if I made a good deal on a particular bike, motorcycle, vintage car, whatever. I just enjoy owning, fiddling with and riding(driving) these old things. By the way, there was a French phrase on the Herse ad that wasn't translated into English on the site. I think it's vaguely obscene. Tom Hansen, Los Angeles, CA USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Michael Howard Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:29 PM To: Dale Brown Cc: chasds@mindspring.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Recently ended Medici & Herse

Ouch that really hurts Dale. And since when are campy nr and sr components low value????

Mike Howard Santa Fe Springs, CA

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
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> Charles (& all):
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> You know, I think the marketplace is exactly correct in both of these:
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> - The Herse does not have the handmade lugs but everything else I can see
> is really pretty darn good and valuable. From what I can see of the seat
> stays and other frame details, this one is built to a pretty high standard,
> esp. considering the age. The racks will need rechroming (not unusual in a
> bike this age) but the patina is not bad at all on the frame. It will
> respond to gentle cleaning very nicely... It has the good cranks and stem.
> True the brakes are not brazed on but that is minor issue as compared to
> finding a Herse of this age in such almost-complete form. This is a very
> important builder with International appeal. With some TLC and chromework,
> this can be a very, very valuable bike. I am not surprised at the price at
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> - The Medici... what can you say about this brand? Sort of a poor cousin
> spin-off from Masi, with no strong following (apologies to members of the
> list who love this make, but I am talking $ here!) Badly rusted fork, low
> value components... Again, not a surprising price IMHO.
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> But who is to say what bike will sell for? Each of us have our favs and
> will pay what we choose to acquire a long-sought-after piece of nostalgia.?
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> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Sat, 2 May 2009 11:48 am
> Subject: [CR] ebay outing: recently ended Medici
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> Whoa!
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> Someone scored a heck of a deal on this one:
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> times are tough. That was a steal, imho.
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> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles
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> "everyone has elites; the important thing is
> to change them from time to time."
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> --Joseph Schumpeter, via Simon Johnson