Re: [CR] 2 Bates questions: serial numbers and metal head badges

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:22:39 -0400
From: "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>
To: "Crocoll, Christopher W" <CrocollCW@state.gov>
In-Reply-To: <EECBD572E1784344A79D8EF687ABE9EB0734DD38@SA42WASHDCMB02.washdc.state.sbu>
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Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] 2 Bates questions: serial numbers and metal head badges


Hi,

Saturday, July 4, 2009, 11:11:19 AM, Crocoll, Christopher W wrote:
> For the many of you familiar with older Bates frames from London:
> 1) Where would the frame number be found on frames of the
> 1930's and 1940's?

On my Bates Vegrandis frame from 1943 (dated by Mr. Martin Coopland), the serial number is on the bottom of the bottom bracket (along the left cup), and the same number is stamped on the back of the forks crown.
> 2) When were metal head badges used? Were they standard or
> optional in those days?

FWIW, my frame does not have a metal head badge.

Hope this helps.

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Cheers,
Dmitry Yaitskov,
Toronto, Canada.