Re: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:52:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

Rat's or maybe even termites may have been chewing on this saddle. I received a similar Ideale saddle from French eBay that looked as if some rodent had been gnawing on the top surface.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

-----Original Message----- From: Mark Petry Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 6:45 pm Subject: Re: [CR] contemporary 'vintage' panto parts

Commenting on "vintage parts and Ebay buyers/sellers" George wrote :
> In vintage bike collecting this practice is not limited to just
> pantographing parts, but faking entire bikes and now even inventing
> provenance.

Agreed - look at this and tell me if you think the seller needs to re-think the definition of NOS<blah

Mark Petry

Bainbridge Island, WA