[CR] Campagnolo Pista Headset

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From: Ben Kamenjas <kamenjas@gmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:05:43 +1000
Subject: [CR] Campagnolo Pista Headset

Coolio's ...

I think Krister might be right. No Gran Sport or Pista headset I know had downwards drooped cups like that. And from what I know Gran Sport headsets had only 2 wrench flats. I discount the box. It doesn't mean anything other than being presented with it ... I have learnt this in the past the hard way.

FWIW the same seller has what looks like a genuine Pista headset running concurrently ...


The copy for this auction item made me wince some.
> This Campagnolo pista/track headset is in "like new" condition. It
> could very well be "new old stock" but since im not sure im not
> going to come to any conlusions. The pictures will speak for
> themselves. The headset is in perfect condition other a few spots on
> the inside of the headset where the chrome is less that perfect. The
> chrome on the outside of the headset is perfect. What makes it a
> pista headset is that it is made of steel and it does not have the
> normal campagnolo logos on the outside of the headset.

Alluding that it might be NOS is ... well ?? Having 2 items purportedly being the same and not noticing the difference ??. Not knowing is fine, but checking for more details to find out what differentiates Pista headsets isn't that hard. I recall the oufit Velo Culture posted here recently. If not can someone remind the "New Kids on The Block" (insert big grin here) about lower stack height, smaller bearings, significance of wrench flats and the smaller radius cups.

To be fair, I've made similar mistakes when selling on ebay and addressed them once informed. It's good to sell on ebay but we must be careful as it's the primary source of information and knowledge for many out there.


Ben (got it all wrong before) Kamenjas Kensington, Australia

On 17/07/2009, at 9:28 AM, <classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org> wrote:
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:34:35 -0500
> From: Krister katsogiannos <katten@msn.com>
> Subject: [CR] Fw: Campagnolo Pista headset
> To: classicrenezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> I would say it's neither the shape of the cups are drooping not
> round like the nuovo record/gran sport headset
> maybe a later 80's mtb low end headset or not even a campagnolo
> headset except for the lock nut
> Krister Katsogiannos
> San Antonio TX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Otis<mailto:otis@otisrecords.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:20 PM
> Subject: [CR] Campagnolo Pista headset
> "Good afternoon
> Is this a pista headset as the seller claims or a Gran Sport headset.
> Also, is a Campag pista headset steel or alloy.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-NIB-CAMPAGNOLO-PISTA-HEADSET-TRACK_W0QQitemZ230355773199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a246270f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A9%7C294%3A50
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-NIB-CAMPAGNOLO-PISTA-HEADSET-TRACK_W0QQitemZ230355773199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a246270f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A9%7C294%3A50
> >
> item 230355773199"
> I think that is a GS. The Pista HS has the full compliment of wrench
> flats
> on the top race nut, unlike the 2 flats shown on the auction HS. At
> least
> all the Pista HS's I've had have been like that. The box shown says
> Record
> Strada so not right for either.
> Jon Williams
> Grants Pass OR USA