Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)


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From: "R.S. Broderick" <rsb000@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:23:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)


Tony,

I am going to assume that your comments were well intentioned, and therefore I will try not to be overly sensitive in my reply given the unfortunate and embarrassing history of my recent "ON LIST" messages regarding Cinelli handlebars and stems.

That said, the wording to which you refer, specifically my use of the phrase ".aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat" was intended to convey the fact that the anodized coating itself on the respective stems in question is NOT color tinted, but rather CLEAR (.capiche?). I am well aware of the fact that one can "clear coat" an aluminum substrate without anodizing same and that the two processes can be and often are mutually exclusive. If my turn of the phrase was such that it begged confusion on your part, that is most unfortunate. Perhaps I would have been better served to use the words ".clear anodized aluminum alloy" in order to avoid any confusion on the matter.

Robert "CLEARLY unwilling to pursue this topic any further" Broderick

.the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota

Sioux Falls, USA

-----Original Message----- From: Anthony Taylor [mailto:ajft1942@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:40 AM To: rsb000@hotmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)

Just for the record, you have either clear coat, or anodizing. Clear coating over anodizing would be redundant.

The good quality equipment is usually anodized. It is permanent, and "sweat proof"! The cheaper stuff is clear coated and is not sweat proof. Ends up with a patchy look where the clear coat has deteriorated and allowed the aluminum underneath to oxidize.

Do not use abrasive metal polishes on anosizing. It will abrade away, leaving you with the kind of finish you get from worn clear coat.

Thanks

Tony Taylor

Manchester NH

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From: R.S. Broderick <rsb000@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:37:53 PM Subject: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)

Since we are discussing Cinelli components, I thought the time most opportune to offer up the following to the CR List - priced for quick sale because I would rather ship them out than have to lug them back to Portland with the rest of our "stuff" in a couple of weeks:

STEM:

Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 90 mm length - single bolt non-quick release - post 1978 A.L. Columbo / Columbus era (...i.e. flying "C" style top logo - model 1/A stem ... [Used - generally good condition above the insertion level (...below that - there are plenty of those typical type of scratches to be expected with a used part) - minimal marking to the anodized finish - minor oxidization and chamfering to the chrome plated steel affixing bolts - still, a nice "user" at a nominal price] - $5.00 USD plus S&H at cost

STEM / HANDLEBAR COMBINATION:

Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 110 mm length - single bolt non-quick release - pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era "CINELLI MILANO" oval top logo - model 1/A stem ... [Used - very good condition with the caveat that its insertion marks continue a full 3 mm above the minimum insertion level or 5 mm below the crown of the neck - otherwise, only nominal marking to the anodized finish - minor oxidization inside the Allen keyways of the chrome plated steel bolts]

... PAIRED WITH ...

Cinelli model 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars - pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era "crested" logos - lightweight aluminum alloy - 120 mm wide / 26.4 mm clamp sized sleeved center section - 40 cm C-t-C / 110 mm reach / 180 mm drop - model 64-40 Giro d'Italia ... [USED - good overall condition with minor markings to be found within the exposed center area of the handlebars (...along the lower frontal area where aero style cable routing has left minor abrasions where the brake cables exited from underneath the wrap, and dead center along the backside from leaning the bike against various items) - the remainder of the exposed center section is as nice as you are likely to find on a set of vintage bars that were actually ridden to any extent on the street - never dropped, never wrecked]

$60.00 USD plus S&H at cost for the aforementioned combination Cinelli 1A stem / Cinelli 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars both having matched pre 1979 logos.

Interested parties should please correspond directly and "OFF LIST" through my public email address of rsb000(AT)hotmail.com http://hotmail.com/ (...where that trio of numerals would be zeros and NOT the letter "O"). All inquiries will be handled on a first come, first served basis. Due to time constraints on my part, detailed photographs of the individual items are NOT available at this time (...and for this I apologize). PayPal is preferred, but I also accept payment by cashier's check, money order, or well concealed cash (...mailed at your own risk). Your satisfaction is guaranteed to the extent that you are welcome to return all or part of any purchase for a full refund of monies not to include shipping and/or insurance provided that said merchandise is returned to me in a reasonably timely fashion and that it is in substantially the same condition as when I first sent it out to you (...please let me know in advance of your intentions should this prove to be the case).

Robert "...going, going, almost gone" Broderick ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota Sioux Falls, USA