Re: [CR] Was Cinelli bars, etc. Now GB bar sizes.

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

From: Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com>
To: <rsb000@hotmail.com>, Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:34:58 -0500
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References: <570687.56693.qm@web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Was Cinelli bars, etc. Now GB bar sizes.


Hi all, were GB bars ever available in 44-46 sizes ? If so, would anybody have a pair for sale? I need an alternative to my 38's on my "74 Raleigh Pro.

Thanks.

Tom Forbes

Houston, freaking hot Texas.

USA.
> From: rsb000@hotmail.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:23:05 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)
>
> Tony,
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>
>
> I am going to assume that your comments were well intentioned, and therefore
> I will try not to be overly sensitive in my reply given the unfortunate and
> embarrassing history of my recent "ON LIST" messages regarding Cinelli
> handlebars and stems.
>
>
>
> That said, the wording to which you refer, specifically my use of the phrase
> ".aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat" was intended to convey the fact
> that the anodized coating itself on the respective stems in question is NOT
> color tinted, but rather CLEAR (.capiche?). I am well aware of the fact
> that one can "clear coat" an aluminum substrate without anodizing same and
> that the two processes can be and often are mutually exclusive. If my turn
> of the phrase was such that it begged confusion on your part, that is most
> unfortunate. Perhaps I would have been better served to use the words
> ".clear anodized aluminum alloy" in order to avoid any confusion on the
> matter.
>
>
>
> Robert "CLEARLY unwilling to pursue this topic any further" Broderick
>
> .the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
>
> Sioux Falls, USA
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Taylor [mailto:ajft1942@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:40 AM
> To: rsb000@hotmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass
> opportunism)
>
>
>
> Just for the record, you have either clear coat, or anodizing. Clear coating
> over anodizing would be redundant.
>
> The good quality equipment is usually anodized. It is permanent, and "sweat
> proof"! The cheaper stuff is clear coated and is not sweat proof. Ends up
> with a patchy look where the clear coat has deteriorated and allowed the
> aluminum underneath to oxidize.
>
> Do not use abrasive metal polishes on anosizing. It will abrade away,
> leaving you with the kind of finish you get from worn clear coat.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Tony Taylor
>
> Manchester NH
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: R.S. Broderick <rsb000@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:37:53 PM
> Subject: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass
> opportunism)
>
> Since we are discussing Cinelli components, I thought the time most
> opportune to offer up the following to the CR List - priced for quick sale
> because I would rather ship them out than have to lug them back to Portland
> with the rest of our "stuff" in a couple of weeks:
>
> STEM:
>
> Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm
> quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 90 mm length - single bolt non-quick release -
> post 1978 A.L. Columbo / Columbus era (...i.e. flying "C" style top logo -
> model 1/A stem ... [Used - generally good condition above the insertion
> level (...below that - there are plenty of those typical type of scratches
> to be expected with a used part) - minimal marking to the anodized finish -
> minor oxidization and chamfering to the chrome plated steel affixing bolts -
> still, a nice "user" at a nominal price] - $5.00 USD plus S&H at cost
>
> STEM / HANDLEBAR COMBINATION:
>
> Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm
> quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 110 mm length - single bolt non-quick release -
> pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era "CINELLI MILANO" oval top logo - model 1/A stem
> ... [Used - very good condition with the caveat that its insertion marks
> continue a full 3 mm above the minimum insertion level or 5 mm below the
> crown of the neck - otherwise, only nominal marking to the anodized finish -
> minor oxidization inside the Allen keyways of the chrome plated steel bolts]
>
> ... PAIRED WITH ...
>
> Cinelli model 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars - pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era
> "crested" logos - lightweight aluminum alloy - 120 mm wide / 26.4 mm clamp
> sized sleeved center section - 40 cm C-t-C / 110 mm reach / 180 mm drop -
> model 64-40 Giro d'Italia ... [USED - good overall condition with minor
> markings to be found within the exposed center area of the handlebars
> (...along the lower frontal area where aero style cable routing has left
> minor abrasions where the brake cables exited from underneath the wrap, and
> dead center along the backside from leaning the bike against various items)
> - the remainder of the exposed center section is as nice as you are likely
> to find on a set of vintage bars that were actually ridden to any extent on
> the street - never dropped, never wrecked]
>
> $60.00 USD plus S&H at cost for the aforementioned combination Cinelli 1A
> stem / Cinelli 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars both having matched pre 1979
> logos.
>
> Interested parties should please correspond directly and "OFF LIST" through
> my public email address of rsb000(AT)hotmail.com http://hotmail.com/
> (...where that trio of
> numerals would be zeros and NOT the letter "O"). All inquiries will be
> handled on a first come, first served basis. Due to time constraints on my
> part, detailed photographs of the individual items are NOT available at this
> time (...and for this I apologize). PayPal is preferred, but I also accept
> payment by cashier's check, money order, or well concealed cash (...mailed
> at your own risk). Your satisfaction is guaranteed to the extent that you
> are welcome to return all or part of any purchase for a full refund of
> monies not to include shipping and/or insurance provided that said
> merchandise is returned to me in a reasonably timely fashion and that it is
> in substantially the same condition as when I first sent it out to you
> (...please let me know in advance of your intentions should this prove to be
> the case).
>
> Robert "...going, going, almost gone" Broderick
> ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
> Sioux Falls, USA