I don't want to saw on any sensitive logs, but I am a bit confused. I thought Cinelli 1A stems were neither clear-coated nor anodized.
Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA
On Saturday, July 25, 2009, Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all, were GB bars ever available in 44-46 sizes ? If so, would anybody have a pair for sale? I need an alternative to my 38's on my "74 Raleigh Pro.
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> Thanks.
>
> Tom Forbes
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> Houston, freaking hot Texas.
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> USA.
>
>> From: rsb000@hotmail.com
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:23:05 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass opportunism)
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to assume that your comments were well intentioned, and therefore
>> I will try not to be overly sensitive in my reply given the unfortunate and
>> embarrassing history of my recent "ON LIST" messages regarding Cinelli
>> handlebars and stems.
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, the wording to which you refer, specifically my use of the phrase
>> ".aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat" was intended to convey the fact
>> that the anodized coating itself on the respective stems in question is NOT
>> color tinted, but rather CLEAR (.capiche?). I am well aware of the fact
>> that one can "clear coat" an aluminum substrate without anodizing same and
>> that the two processes can be and often are mutually exclusive. If my turn
>> of the phrase was such that it begged confusion on your part, that is most
>> unfortunate. Perhaps I would have been better served to use the words
>> ".clear anodized aluminum alloy" in order to avoid any confusion on the
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert "CLEARLY unwilling to pursue this topic any further" Broderick
>>
>> .the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
>>
>> Sioux Falls, USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anthony Taylor [mailto:ajft1942@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:40 AM
>> To: rsb000@hotmail.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass
>> opportunism)
>>
>>
>>
>> Just for the record, you have either clear coat, or anodizing. Clear coating
>> over anodizing would be redundant.
>>
>> The good quality equipment is usually anodized. It is permanent, and "sweat
>> proof"! The cheaper stuff is clear coated and is not sweat proof. Ends up
>> with a patchy look where the clear coat has deteriorated and allowed the
>> aluminum underneath to oxidize.
>>
>> Do not use abrasive metal polishes on anosizing. It will abrade away,
>> leaving you with the kind of finish you get from worn clear coat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Taylor
>>
>> Manchester NH
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: R.S. Broderick <rsb000@hotmail.com>
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:37:53 PM
>> Subject: [CR] FOR SALE - Cinelli Handlebars And Stems (...i.e. crass
>> opportunism)
>>
>> Since we are discussing Cinelli components, I thought the time most
>> opportune to offer up the following to the CR List - priced for quick sale
>> because I would rather ship them out than have to lug them back to Portland
>> with the rest of our "stuff" in a couple of weeks:
>>
>> STEM:
>>
>> Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm
>> quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 90 mm length - single bolt non-quick release -
>> post 1978 A.L. Columbo / Columbus era (...i.e. flying "C" style top logo -
>> model 1/A stem ... [Used - generally good condition above the insertion
>> level (...below that - there are plenty of those typical type of scratches
>> to be expected with a used part) - minimal marking to the anodized finish -
>> minor oxidization and chamfering to the chrome plated steel affixing bolts -
>> still, a nice "user" at a nominal price] - $5.00 USD plus S&H at cost
>>
>> STEM / HANDLEBAR COMBINATION:
>>
>> Cinelli model 1A stem - aluminum alloy with anodized clear coat - 22.2 mm
>> quill - 26.4 mm size clamp - 110 mm length - single bolt non-quick release -
>> pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era "CINELLI MILANO" oval top logo - model 1/A stem
>> ... [Used - very good condition with the caveat that its insertion marks
>> continue a full 3 mm above the minimum insertion level or 5 mm below the
>> crown of the neck - otherwise, only nominal marking to the anodized finish -
>> minor oxidization inside the Allen keyways of the chrome plated steel bolts]
>>
>> ... PAIRED WITH ...
>>
>> Cinelli model 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars - pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era
>> "crested" logos - lightweight aluminum alloy - 120 mm wide / 26.4 mm clamp
>> sized sleeved center section - 40 cm C-t-C / 110 mm reach / 180 mm drop -
>> model 64-40 Giro d'Italia ... [USED - good overall condition with minor
>> markings to be found within the exposed center area of the handlebars
>> (...along the lower frontal area where aero style cable routing has left
>> minor abrasions where the brake cables exited from underneath the wrap, and
>> dead center along the backside from leaning the bike against various items)
>> - the remainder of the exposed center section is as nice as you are likely
>> to find on a set of vintage bars that were actually ridden to any extent on
>> the street - never dropped, never wrecked]
>>
>> $60.00 USD plus S&H at cost for the aforementioned combination Cinelli 1A
>> stem / Cinelli 64-40 Giro d'Italia handlebars both having matched pre 1979
>> logos.
>>
>> Interested parties should please correspond directly and "OFF LIST" through
>> my public email address of rsb000(AT)http://hotmail.com http://hotmail.com/
>> (...where that trio of
>> numerals would be zeros and NOT the letter "O"). All inquiries will be
>> handled on a first come, first served basis. Due to time constraints on my
>> part, detailed photographs of the individual items are NOT available at this
>> time (...and for this I apologize). PayPal is preferred, but I also accept
>> payment by cashier's check, money order, or well concealed cash (...mailed
>> at your own risk). Your satisfaction is guaranteed to the extent that you
>> are welcome to return all or part of any purchase for a full refund of
>> monies not to include shipping and/or insurance provided that said
>> merchandise is returned to me in a reasonably timely fashion and that it is
>> in substantially the same condition as when I first sent it out to you
>> (...please let me know in advance of your intentions should this prove to be
>> the case).
>>
>> Robert "...going, going, almost gone" Broderick
>> ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
>> Sioux Falls, USA