Re: [CR] Sutherland's?


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Subject: Re: [CR] Sutherland's?


Jerry Moos makes reference to "Sutherland's". What is it?

George Strickler Walden, Vermont

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Today's Topics:

1. Colnago Experts: Contact me off List! (Kirke Campbell) 2. PX-10 Rear Axle (Todd Grantham) 3. Oxalic Acid (Tom Sanders) 4. Re: PX-10 Rear Axle (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)

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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:20:58 -0700 From: Kirke Campbell <passionateyouththing@yahoo.com> Subject: [CR] Colnago Experts: Contact me off List! To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <553048.79562.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I know this is off-topic, but if there is any place to find Colnago experts it is here on the list. If anybody wants to help me pinpoint some information about a late 1980s Colnago (possibly a Superissimo?) then please email me off-list and I will provide some information for you.

Thanks so much in advance!

-Kirke Campbell Houston, TX USA

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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:34:35 -0400 From: Todd Grantham <wtgrantham@comcast.net> Subject: [CR] PX-10 Rear Axle To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <1B45B08BD1DC4AAA9C345E943A5788F4@workhorse> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am restoring a 1972 PX-10 and have just started on the original wheels (normandy Lux Competition hubs). Turns out the rear axle is bent. Can someone tell me if that is an item I will get from a bike shop or will it be a vintage piece I will have to source used from another hub or wheelset? Thanks Todd Grantham Fort Wayne, IN USA

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Message: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:32:40 -0400 From: Tom Sanders <tesanders@comcast.net> Subject: [CR] Oxalic Acid To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <000b01ca0e1f$76753bd0$635fb370$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I see this substance is being discussed to clean off rust and other crud off metal. I want to offer this cautionary tale. About 30 years ago I was using it to clean a pair of 18th Century andirons. I was in the corner of a basement. Feeling that the fumes were getting pretty strong I got up top go outside and take a break. When I stood, the whole place spun and I just dropped to my knees. I realized right away (One might not) what the problem was and crawled away on my hands and knees to the basement stairs and beat a hasty retreat to fresh air.

When using just about anything that is strong, be sure you have both ventilation and probably a mask, too. Safety glasses and gloves are a must with anything of this ilk. Lots of legal stuff (from chrome polish, to oven cleaners) can be dangerous under the right circumstances. Be very careful.

Tom Sanders

Lansing, MI USA

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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:49:43 -0700 From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR] PX-10 Rear Axle To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Todd Grantham <wtgrantham@comcast.net> Message-ID: <136749.23303.qm@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sutherland's says French hollow rear axles were M9.5 x 1, which is very close to 26 TPI. There are still new rear axles available for M9.5 x 26 TPI for mid-priced Japanese hubs, so if the Normandy Competition were the standard French 9.5 x 1, then I think a 9.5 x 26 TPI is worth a try, although you will probably have to cut it as new axles are likely to be too long. If this doesn't work you may need to find a classic axle. The mid-priced Normandy Sport used different dimension cones, but I think maybe the axle itself had the same dimensions as Normandy Competition, so an inexpensive Normandy rear hub might be a suitable donor.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Todd Grantham wrote:


> From: Todd Grantham <wtgrantham@comcast.net>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] PX-10 Rear Axle

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 1:34 PM

\r?\n> I am restoring a 1972 PX-10 and have

\r?\n> just started on the original wheels (normandy Lux

\r?\n> Competition hubs). Turns out the rear axle is bent. Can

\r?\n> someone tell me if that is an item I will get from a bike

\r?\n> shop or will it be a vintage piece I will have to source

\r?\n> used from another hub or wheelset?

\r?\n> Thanks

\r?\n> Todd Grantham

\r?\n> Fort Wayne, IN USA