Gentlemen and a few ladies:
The most important fact is that the person is able to RIDE HIS BIKE!
All the rest is high school commentary and unworthy of this list and it's
alleged sophistication.
If you don't like the aesthetics, please do so in a gentle way like 'not my
cup of tea but hey if it works for him that's what counts, and I'm happy to
see him out there.
Make it a positive comment, ask about it, be curious, learn.
The more people out there who have a restriction precluding their use of a
'traditional' geometry if there is such a thing, and worked their way around
it, the better for us.
This brings out creativity and inspiration, and deserves compliments.
Some stuff works and some doesn't, but we still have to try.
I've known/know many frame builders that won't build a bike if the customer
wants something built that won't work and sends him off to look elsewhere.
The builder knows that if he makes it and it fails it's the builder's fault,
and VERY few people will say it's what they wanted and is a failure because
of their own plan and not the builder.
So, liten up, maybe that's the first one and the next one may be somewhat
more refined.
Gotta start somewhere, the rider wants on the road and doesn't want to wait
forever while the builder keep tinkering on so called good looks.
To whom?
Remember there's a cover for every pot.
Instead, congratulate the parties concerned and leave the twittering to the
valley girls.
It's really unbecoming and doesn't belong on the list.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA
the blue ebay frame has more headtube extension than the erichie lugs have.
Jeff Piwonka Austin, Texas USA
--- On Sun, 8/30/09, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Jimmy Katynski's extended head tube Della Santa frame
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "Tom Sanders" <tesanders@comcast.net>
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:31 PM
> Tom, I'm not sure if we mean the same
> bike. I has posted about this eBay Della Santa:
>
> http://ebay.com/
>
> I'd never seen a touring Della Santa before, but I like it
> including the extended headtube. I think it's
> perfectly OK for other CR members to criticize the extended
> headtube as ugly, I just happen to totally disagree with
> them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Texas, USA
>
> --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Sanders <tesanders@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Tom Sanders <tesanders@comcast.net>
> > Subject: [CR] Jimmy Katynski's extended head tube
> Della Santa frame
> > To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:34 AM
> > Folks, a short while back Jimmy
> > Katynski, a long time CR member and a friend
> > listed his Della Santa bike for sale to the CR
> list.
> > It has an extended
> > head tube. He asked what I feel a very fair price
> for
> > it. Since that time
> > a few people have assailed the virtues of that bike
> in
> > vituperative terms.
> > I think this is grossly unfair to Jimmy and exhibits a
> lack
> > of sensitivity
> > to his feelings. I do not think it appropriate to
> > diss one of our members
> > bikes when it is being offered for sale like this.
> No
> > attempt at anything
> > like fraud, misrepresentation, or anything like
> that
> > was made by Jimmy. He
> > thought he was making an offering to friends. I
> > wonder if he still feels
> > that way?
> >
> > If it is a matter of taste, I think one should take
> any
> > negative comments
> > they care to make off line in such a situation.
> This
> > all came across like
> > hostility to a great guy who had done no wrong and
> some
> > folks here should
> > examine their behavior in this matter. We so not do
> > so well when we are
> > divisive and not inclusive.
> >
> > I like the bike. A lot. And I like Jimmy a lot,
> > too. If you feel like
> > making negative comments toward me, please co0ntact me
> off
> > line to do so.
> >
> > Tom Sanders
> >
> > Lansing, MI USA