Re: [CR] Eisentraut Serial Number Dating

(Example: Production Builders:Pogliaghi)

From: <"brianbaylis@juno.com">
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:34:31 GMT
To: billkloos@landuseoregon.com
Cc: billkloos@landuseoregon.com, tom@orderandchaos.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Eisentraut Serial Number Dating


Bill,

Now that there is GOOD information, folks!

Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Kloos
To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org"
Cc: Bill Kloos , Tom Sanders
Subject: [CR] Eisentraut Serial Number Dating
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:29:34 -0500


Tom:

Ed Litton is repainting my "A" model Eisentraut and removing some aftermarket brazeons while he is at it. Ed was a partner of AE for some years. The SN on my bike (on the BB and on the steerer tube in way too small numbers is: E130475. Ed Litton translated this SN for me as the 13th frame built in April of 1975.

Bill Kloos Eugene Oregon BillKloos@landuseoregon.com

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:27:49 -0500 From: "Tom Sanders" <tom@orderandchaos.com> Subject: [CR] Dating Eisentraut bikes To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <003c01cabd30$d1822e50$74868af0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Seriously folks, can someone offer a few tips on Dating these venerated bikes? I have always heard there is no help from the builder available. I have owned one that was used by a famous female racer (In Mr. Baylis' possession now, I believe) and am closing in on another nice one, and have watched them for years and I haven't a clue as to how to date them. I take it the Rainbow Trout and Limited are somewhat later than some( Apparently his statement that if they have the Eisentraut name on them they came from his shop or family was before the advent of the Limited model?) ? Anyone able to shed some light on this? Did Eisentraut use that distinctive A Model seat post cluster treatment from an early time? Has his lug style changed at some point over the years? Why might one before a specific date be more desirable than a later one? Anything else I should be asking?

Tom Sanders

Curious in Lansing, MI USA

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