Re: [CR] Short Vs. Long Reach : Round 2!

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From: "kevin sayles" <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne" <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>, "CR discussion list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:13:50 -0000
Subject: Re: [CR] Short Vs. Long Reach : Round 2!


No Mathew, the first Campag brakes were deep drop..... as far as I know the short drop [piccolo, wasn't that the name of one of Tulio's workers?] came out around 1975? maybe earlier to corrospond with the introduction of Super Record.

On the 'period' bikes I'm working on I will begin using short drop brakes on a '1976 1st generation Super Record bike'....the ones before then will have deep drop....be they Campag or Mafac etc...though my Universal 68s are shallow & deep drop rear.

I keep meaning to do a detailed list with pics showing the slight variations with the Campag brakes....such as where you aware there are two versions of the 'brev Camp' fixing bolt.......and the writing on the QR cam has two versions........then of course there is the 'brev inter' and brev int on the arms that someone else pointed out to the list last year........

cheers Kevin Sayles
Bridgwater Somerset UK


----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne
To: CR discussion list
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: [CR] Short Vs. Long Reach : Round 2!



>
> Did Campagnolo introduce both standard/long and short reach brake calipers
> simultaneously? Or were short reach calipers not available until later?
> If so, when?
>
> Matthew Bowne
> Brooklyn, New York
>
>> From: devotion_finesse@hotmail.com
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:11:22 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [CR] Short Reach Front, Long Reach Rear?
>>
>>
>> Many thanks to all who responded to my query both on and off-list.
>> (I'm afraid this is likely *not* the last question I'll have regarding my
>> on-going efforts to restore my '71 Colnago Super...making an accurate
>> replica fork in the process. Thank you all for the continued help.)
>> To provide a bit of the backstory:
>> After a long search, I obtained all of the necessary bits to build a fork
>> that will look *really* close to what originally came on my early Colnago
>> frame. Not the Cinelli MC style, which showed up in '72 (first blank,
>> then with clover), but a semi-sloping, 'scalloped' shape crown with four
>> points and two holes drilled on the sides/shoulders. I took measurements
>> from 2 different Colnago Super forks from '70-'72 and made a fork with
>> identical specs (rake, brake drop, etc.)
>> After finishing final alignment yesterday, I threw a brake and a wheel
>> on...Just out of curiosity. "Uh-oh."
>> I think I might have mistakenly assumed that all Campy brakes of the era
>> were standard/long reach and was surprised when a long reach did not fit
>> the fork I made. My conclusion was that perhaps the bike was built for
>> two different brakes. Is it possible that in fact BOTH brakes really
>> ought to be short reach? Were short reach Campy brakes even available in
>> 1971?
>> I'll need to take a close look at the frame tomorrow and see what makes
>> sense for the rear caliper. If a short reach fits the back, then I
>> suppose I've answered my own question...
>> If not, then I am glad that others have suggested that it was not
>> completely uncommon for bikes to be built with differing drops in the
>> front and rear. Coulda sworn I had heard that somewhere...and am
>> relieved that I might not be losing my mind after all. Maybe.
>>
>> Matthew Bowne
>> Brooklyn, New York
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: devotion_finesse@hotmail.com
>> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:05:42 -0500
>> > Subject: [CR] Short Reach Front, Long Reach Rear?
>> >
>> > Do my eyes deceive? Or is it really possible that this early 70's
>> > Colnago Super is built to accept a short reach front brake
>> > caliper...and a standard reach in the rear? Am I missin' something
>> > here? Or was this a common practice for builders of the era? If so,
>> > why?
>> >
>> > Matthew Bowne
>> > scratchin' my head in
>> > Breukelen, New Amsterdam
>> > (BKNYC)
>> >
>> >
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