Re: [CR] FS: frameset with chainset, early '70s Bottecchia Giro d'Italia

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:13:11 -0400
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: joeb-z@comcast.net
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, tom ward <tom.ward@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] FS: frameset with chainset, early '70s Bottecchia Giro d'Italia


The fork dropouts and frame ends are forged, with the adjusting screws, and the crimps in the back appear to have been brazed in addition to the crimp. Plus the lugs and fork crown look decent. If it's really a full db Columbus frame, I would think it will provide a really good ride, though it might or might not be Bottecchia's best work. I had a non-famous Italian frame with some similar workmanship ideosyncracies, and it was a great ride.

Somewhere on the list a bunch of years back (maybe 5 or 6, when I started) one of the "venerable members" described the workmanship of Italian racing frames of this era as being "tools for racing" rather than showpieces. This could be an example of that, though I admit the stay attachments are questionable.

It looks like a 58 or 59, so it's out of the question for me. But if in the 54-56 range (and if I had a job now), I'd be thinking about it.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM, <joeb-z@comcast.net> wrote:
> I hate to be mean but this is a lot of hype for a mediocre rider. Commodity
> frame, useless repaint, crummy crankset.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Whitneyville, CT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tom ward" <tom.ward@juno.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:56:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [CR] FS: frameset with chainset, early '70s Bottecchia Giro
> d'Italia
>
> Something else to offer to the list, if you'll pardon me:
>
> A Bottecchia frameset with no brazeons, very lightweight, Columbus
> double-butted tubing. To be sold with original Nervar Star chainset and
> bottom-bracket per model "Giro d'Italia" specification, installed, smooth,
> and ready for action. Includes cableguides, Campagnolo at the bottom-bracket
> and chainstay. Some Dia-compes up top, if only as placeholders. No headset
> included. 52 / 42 rings. Campagnolo dropouts.
>
> The frame is a decent amateur respray, a few years old but in very good
> shape, in "Bottecchia Blue." Whoever did it chose to cover the headlugs, the
> they are theoretically chrome under there, and the rest of the chrome is in
> great shape. A set of flickr photos is available at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yexcyfx
>
> $320 shipped in the continental U.S.
>
> Transfers are available from cyclomondo on eBay. His price for them is $45.
>
> I offered this to the list a couple of years ago. I think it had a brakeset
> and headset at the time, and the price was different. Transfers for older
> Bottecchias were less available then; there's a bit different audience here
> now; I'm hoping this worthy frameset will find a sympathetic home at this
> time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom Ward
> Bonita, California, USA
>
> P.S. With an alloy headset and Universal 68s--otherwise stock--it was
> noticeably very light, and I have other Italian frames, comparable, to
> compare it to. But I've never had a good scale. The chrome is in great
> shape. This frameset is eminently restorable, not much needs to be done.
> Maybe ride as is, and restore later--in the color of your choice. The lore
> handed-down was that this is a '71.
>
>
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Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA