Re: [CR] Need Correct BCD Info 60's/70's Pog

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:03:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dale B. Phelps" <losgatos_dale@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, Jeffery Pyzyk <jpyzyk@sbcglobal.net>
In-Reply-To: <184878.11305.qm@web180410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Need Correct BCD Info 60's/70's Pog


Hi Jeff,

I'd say keep the build of your bike as is and ride it! But, to answer your q: it is all accurate for 1968.

My '68 Pog, sn 9203, it is built up pretty much like yours,  pics are here:

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Dale_Phelps/album81/1968_Pogliaghi/

When the weather improves in CO I need to get it out and try to fine-tune those Universal sidepulls, again!. Frankly...I think they suck! This bike rides beautifully but the brakes are shit! Thats the one thing I'd wanna change out on the bike, I was innerested in those no-name Campi brakes for it, but that idea went by the wayside with the fomented bid war. Maybe Mod 61's?

Anyways the dating of your Pog is accurate.Would LOVE to see some fotos of it!

Best regards,

Dale Phelps,
Montagna lunga Colorado USA


--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Jeffery Pyzyk wrote:


From: Jeffery Pyzyk <jpyzyk@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR] Need Correct BCD Info 60's/70's Pog To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 10:01 AM

Someone had mentioned that 144bcd cranks (Strada) had come into use by 1971.  My understanding is that the 144bcd Strada cranksets came into use much earlier, in about 1968, with the introduction of the Nuovo Record group.  They were not date coded until 1971 or so.

I have the same, but more difficult question with my own, recently acquired strada Pogliaghi.  It is number 9187, which I think puts it in the 1967/68 ish period.  A prior owner had fitted period-conistent parts including a 144bcd crank (Pat. no date code), Pat. no date Nuovo Record rear derailleur, old Record front derailleur with cable stop, and Universal 68 side pulls.  I think this would be perfect for a '68/'69 built bike, but am wondering if the frameset actually dates a tad earlier.  Also, curiously, this frameset does not have the hallmark diamonds cut into the lugs, but does have  "PSM" in the seat tube and all other lugwork, fork crown, and workmanship of Pogliaghi of this period, also original paint and decals.

I have a 151bcd crank and old Record rear derailleur that I could fit.  Calling out to the Pogliaghi cognoscenti - what should I do?

Jeff Pyzyk
Milwaukee, WI