Re: [CR] Market Slump?

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli:Laser)

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:01:35 -0400
From: Tom Hayes <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Market Slump?


I would be interested in seeing statistics of Ebay sales on particular items on Ebay. I realize there is real difficulty in comparing that auction to this auction, but even if there were some rough kind of comparisons it might show something--though I am certainly not willing to do it nor do I have the skill to do it.

Each year, maybe more frequently than once a year since the CR list has started, we have this discussion about market slumps or lack of items on Ebay. Yet, each year there are consistently sales and trends that seem to turn our speculations and musings (including this one) into something less than valid.

I pretty much run the same searches, and I pretty much find the same number of items offered using the same search terms, such as "campagnolo" or "Reynolds 531." More on Monday than Tuesday, but most Mondays have roughly the same approximate number. Most of course I do not follow to the end of the auction. My sense of those I do follow, however, depending upon the quality of the pictures, price, and description, the components and bikes bring the roughly the same amount. There are some fluctuations in season or holidays, but otherwise, it seems to me that auction prices keep increasing including those over the past year. In saying that, I know there are notable exceptions, both extremely good bargains and high prices.

Cheers.

Tom Hayes Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Kurt Sperry <haxixe@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Ebay there is practically only one world market given the quantity
> of sales that cross borders and oceans even on items that are
> ostensibly only offered locally. When I saw that Cinelli auction with
> a bit of a rough bike with no clear evidence of original paint or
> decals, no chrome, of unknown provenance, small and limited photos and
> with a 3500USD starting bid I figured it'd close with no bids. I
> doubt the same auction would have received bids even two or three
> years ago. Auctions with super high preset starting bids often
> (usually?) end with no bids offered, the auction bidding dynamic can
> never establish any momentum on those.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham, Washington
> USA
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Nathan Cozzolino
> <cozzolino77@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dickey,
> > Oops, I should have been more specific: I meant my market. Not the market
> in general.
> > And what about that sky scraper Confente Pista that went for $7,800 a few
> months back? Some stuff is still faring well.
> > Nathan Cozzolino,San Francisco, California
> >> What about the Campy brakes that sold for $1,865.00 Friday? That ain't
> no slump there!
> >>
> >> Dickey Greer
> >> West Monroe,La USA
> >
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Tom Hayes
Chagrin Falls, Ohio