[CR] Schwinn Paramount sells high, again!

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From: "accobra" <accobra@peoplepc.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:42:52 -0500
Subject: [CR] Schwinn Paramount sells high, again!


Another high quality/nice looking early 70's Schwinn Paramount P13 frameset sells on eBay for a higher-than-expected price. This time $1158 for a 1973 model in sharp candy red. There were four different bidders above $800 so it wasn't totally a case of only two people driving the price up in bidding war: http://ebay.com/<blah> Or, http://tinyurl.com/yjd27rz

Here's the frameset we discussed last month, a candy blue 1975 P13, that sold for $1105. Also four different bidders bidding above $700. And NONE of the same bidders that were bidding on the red frameset above: http://ebay.com/<blah> Or, http://tinyurl.com/ykxp67s

Perhaps a trend starting for the Paramount? I know some people like to knock Paramounts, but I still suspect this well-known nameplate conjures up good memories for some collectors and/or people getting into the hobby. It does for me. I have have two early 70's Paramounts that I enjoy owning nearly as much as my Masi Gran Criteriums. Again, it's about nostalgia. Like the red 1973 Schwinn Apple Krate I have sitting with all the other bikes. :)

Mark Winkelman
Dallas, Texas USA


----- Original Message -----
From: accobra
To: Classic Rendezvous
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CR] A tale of two Paramounts



>I can't speak for the people that are/were actively bidding on these two
>Paramounts, but as a Paramount enthusiast I've been watching/watched both
>so I'll offer a guess. For starters, I believe blue '75 is benefiting from
>several people really wanting it, i.e.: it's selling for more than I would
>have expected.
>
> But why? One, the color is not common for a mid-70's Paramount. It's a
> very pleasant shade of blue. That could be a lot of the appeal along with
> the fact that it's a P13 racing frame, versus the more common P15 touring
> frame.
>
> And then there's this - my most serious riding started & took place in the
> early to mid-1970's. When I look for bikes to add to my collection,
> that's the era that appeals to me the most from a nostalgia point of view.
> Anything from the 1960's (and earlier) and most bikes from 1980's don't do
> enough for me to want to spend $1000+ to add them to my stable. There are
> bikes that I can admire from eras other than the 70's, but "generally" not
> enough to buy them. So, maybe the people bidding on the blue Paramount
> can relate to the 1975 model more so than the 1966 even though, granted,
> they are very similar in appearance, in terms of graphics & lug style.
>
> By the way, speaking of graphics, I find it curious that this late 1975
> model has the earlier generation decal set, rather than the new style/font
> that was introduced in 1975. Has it been repainted? The seller claims it
> hasn't and apparently he's gotten plenty of questions about it given his
> additions to the auction description.
>
> Here are the two links again: http://tinyurl.com/ybhbju2 1966
> http://tinyurl.com/yljy4wd
> 1975
> Mark Winkelman
> Dallas, Texas USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Allen" <jgallen@lexairinc.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:35 AM
> Subject: [CR] was "market slump" now a tale of two Paramounts
>
>
>> Can someone explain this to me?
>>
>>
>> 1966 Paramount with Campy brake and Phil hubs upgrade, sold for $1025.00
>> URL: *http://tinyurl.com/ybhbju2*
>> Eaby Item #: 160411434603
>>
>> 1975 Paramount frame presently at $660.00
>> URL: http://tinyurl.com/yljy4wd
>> Ebay Item #: 120543784694
>>
>> The 1966 was in very nice shape with some nice semi-period upgrades.
>> And I've always heard the pre-bike boom Paramounts were put together
>> better.
>>
>> Is the color on the 1975 rare or something? What am I missing? Can the
>> Paramount experts enlighten me?
>>
>> BTW, I thought both auction were well presented with great pictures.
>>
>> George Allen
>> Lexington, KY
>> USA
>> There's my two posts for the day!